Re: Variant access points?

2008-02-04 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Adam Schiff said: In our current database environment, variant access points refer to used for references (4XX) in authority records, they aren't intended as additional access points in bibs. In a bib you would only use the preferred access point for an entity. This applies only to most

Re: Variant access points?

2008-02-04 Thread Tim Knight/osgoode
Adam, Thanks. I understand that aspect. But it's not as clear to me in the RDA drafts how these VAP's are to be applied, i.e. there is no statement to the effect that these refer to bibs/authorities and/or FRBR/FRAD. In AACR 'references' clearly referred to authority records and title

Re: Variant access points?

2008-02-04 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Adam L. Schiff said: I have to disagree with Mac Elrod's post. In terms of the December 2007 draft, the term variant access point is only referring to cross-references in authority records, not variant titles in bibliographic descriptions. You have underscored my point beautifully. Thank

Re: Variant access points?

2008-02-04 Thread Karen Coyle
Adam, without going on about this too long (and recognizing that you are not personally responsible ) I would like to understand the nature of the access points in the bibliographic record. The RDA draft says: 5.1.3 ACCESS POINT ... 5.1.3.2 The term *access point* refers to a name

Re: Compilations

2008-02-04 Thread Adam L. Schiff
You have to go back to the rules that deal with creators, that were in the former chapter 6 that was released last spring: 6.3.1.0.3 A person, family, or corporate body responsible for compiling an aggregate work may be considered to be a creator of the compilation if the selection,

Re: Variant access points?

2008-02-04 Thread Karen Coyle
Jonathan, here's what John Attig said about names vs. reality in the #2 scenario:[see below for link] It [the #2 scenario] also includes a single composite bibliographic record for each resource, but the access points in that record are linked to authority records. These authority records

Re: Compilations

2008-02-04 Thread Karen Coyle
Martha Yee mentioned this also in her Dec. 17 post with comments on the recent drafts: I heartily support the entry of more works under compilers, as a name in conjunction with a title is much more likely to be a distinctive work identifier than is a title alone. However, I cannot figure out

Re: Variant access points?

2008-02-04 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I think I disagree with that interpretation. I think our preferred names are best understood as both identifiers and display labels in the _present_ environment! I don't think the choice of scenarios effects this, personally. Those scenarios are questions of how the data is to be encoded, and