On Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:50 PM, Jacqueline Byrd wrote:
So, would we just ignore CIP information that would normally go in a
transcription field? It's not unusual for me to find an edition and/or series
statement only in the CIP. Is it best not to record information for these
fields if it
So, would we just ignore CIP information that would normally go in a
transcription field?
In most cases, the CIP information is in the LC or LAC record which
was upgraded from a CIP one. We would not remove nor bracket that
information; it is in the item.
Of course one must be aware of earlier
RDA-L readers,
Sometimes CIP for a previous edition is printed. In such cases you can take
pertinent data, such as the LCCN (which is invalid, and should be coded so
using subfield z, but is nevertheless usable as a search key) and include it in
the record for the book in hand.
Once I had a
Honestly, I never have thought about that CIP is a reliable source. But
maybe I am wrong. Since Ian mentioned translation, I have a Chinese
translation joke. I have done several Chinese books for the Lincoln
Presidential Library. These books all are thread-bound. One of matched OCLC
records showed
Isn't CIP data transfer supposed to be part of the automation in this
process, especially from a bibframe perspective?
Cindy Wolff
Honestly, I never have thought about that CIP is a
reliable source. But
maybe I am wrong. Since Ian mentioned
translation, I have a Chinese
translation joke. I
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA CIP
You consider it so, and others consider it not so. But my question is
really what does RDA say about it, and if it is silent then do we need
an LC-PCC PS to address this question.
Our previous local practice was to never consider CIP data printed in
the book as part of the other preliminaries that were valid as a
prescribed source of information under AACR2 2.0B2.
RDA 2.2.2.1 says Use as the preferred source of information a source
forming part of the resource
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Michael Cohen
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:41 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] RDA CIP
Our previous local practice was to never consider CIP data printed in the book
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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:33 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA CIP
Haha.
My librarian nearly had a fit when she
Subject: [RDA-L] RDA CIP
Is CIP data printed in the book part of the resource?
We consider it so.
Specifically, if the CIP includes an edition statement that does not
appear anywhere else in the volume, should it be included in the
bibliographic record?
Yes, although the ISBN is the most
You consider it so, and others consider it not so. But my question is
really what does RDA say about it, and if it is silent then do we need
an LC-PCC PS to address this question.
On 4/11/2013 3:53 PM, J. McRee Elrod wrote:
Subject: [RDA-L] RDA CIP
Is CIP data printed in the book part
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA CIP
Haha.
My librarian nearly had a fit when she discovered that I, as a new
cataloguing technician, was deriving edition statements from CIP info.
From this you can see that she agrees with your local practice, and we
continue to work on that basis
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