Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Hinchcliff, Marilou
Hinchcliff From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kevin M Randall Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:47 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records :) I guess I should

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Jack Wu
and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jack Wu Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:02 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records If I'm not mistaken, this's the fullest explanation yet

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Jack Wu
@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jack Wu Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:02 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records If I'm not mistaken, this's the fullest explanation yet on the weighty matter of . / no . which have perplexed so

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Joan Wang
, 2013 08:38 *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records ** ** Right! ** ** Thanks to all of you for your help with this, especially to Kevin Randall. Here is the rationale I have built—please let me know where the flaws

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Kevin M Randall
@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records Thanks Kevin for pointing out the lack of correspondence between MARC tag order and ISBD order which clears up that part of my misconception. I still think it rather odd that punctuation, if applied at all, follows

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of James Weinheimer Sent: April-25-13 11:56 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records On 25/04/2013 16:50, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote: snip Any user who notices cm instead of cm. will assume, with good reason

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Wojciech Siemaszkiewicz
] *On Behalf Of *James Weinheimer *Sent:* April-25-13 11:56 AM *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records ** ** On 25/04/2013 16:50, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote: snip Any user who notices cm instead of cm. will assume, with good reason

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Kevin M Randall
and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:01 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records All of this may be true but due to reasons discussed rather exhaustively

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
, 2013 2:32 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records In the (hopefully soon, but for sure I'm not holding my breath!) future, we will likely—or at least should—be entering RDA elements into workforms with no punctuation at all, unless

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Joan Wang
] cm period/no period and sample records ** ** All of this may be true but due to reasons discussed rather exhaustively in this very thread a dotless cm will only show up under certain circumstances anyhow. To adequately explain why it doesn't requires informing users

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Ben, I absolutely agree that different spelling and writing conventions should be accepted (and I think RDA allows for this in the alternative at 1.7). This is simply necessary if RDA is applied internationally. For example, spacing conventions sometimes differ between the American and the

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-25 Thread Julie Moore
Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Benjamin A Abrahamse *Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:01 PM *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records ** ** All of this may be true but due to reasons

[RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-24 Thread Hinchcliff, Marilou
Per RDA Abbreviations, metric dimensions (e.g., cm) are not considered abbreviations and so should not end with a period. If there is a 490 series statement, however, cm IS followed by a period based on the ISBD requirement that a series statement be PRECEDED by space full stop space (D1.2.7).

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-24 Thread Joan Wang
ISBD also requires that each NOTE be preceded by space full stop space dash space or start a new paragraph for each. Does this mean that if you start a new paragraphs, as for the 1st note, you don’t need to precede it by a space full stop, let alone the space full stop dash space? I found

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-24 Thread Kevin M Randall
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records Per RDA Abbreviations, metric dimensions (e.g., cm) are not considered abbreviations and so should not end with a period. If there is a 490 series statement, however, cm IS followed by a period based on the ISBD

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-24 Thread Mitchell, Michael
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Hinchcliff, Marilou Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:06 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records Per RDA Abbreviations

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-24 Thread Wojciech Siemaszkiewicz
*To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records ** ** Per RDA Abbreviations, metric dimensions (e.g., cm) are not considered abbreviations and so should not end with a period. ** ** If there is a 490 series statement, however, cm IS followed

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-24 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Marulou Hinchclitff said: ISBD also requires that each NOTE be preceded by space full stop space dash= space or start a new paragraph for each. On printed cards, each note did start a new paragraph. RDA has not one mumblin' word about display. But if a new paragraph were not to be started

Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records

2013-04-24 Thread Kevin M Randall
and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jack Wu Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:02 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] cm period/no period and sample records If I'm not mistaken, this's the fullest explanation yet