Re: [Rdkit-discuss] hybridization of nitrogen in beta-lactam

2021-02-13 Thread Paul Emsley
On 13/02/2021 18:15, Peter St. John wrote: Is there any reason why RDKit says the nitrogen in beta-lactam is SP2-hybridized? I would have assumed it should be SP3. It doesn't seem to be the ring structure, 'C1NC1' lists all the atoms as being SP3. >>> [(atom.GetSymbol(),

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] hybridization of nitrogen in beta-lactam

2021-02-13 Thread Peter St. John
Ok great, thanks for the clarification! I was trying to follow 'S3' in table 2 of https://doi.org/10.1021/ci300415d, where their criteria was "at most one sp2 -center in 4-membered rings" which apparently allowed beta-lactam, but it seems there's more to that characterization than just total

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] hybridization of nitrogen in beta-lactam

2021-02-13 Thread Peter S. Shenkin
Amide Ns are usually viewed as sp2 because of the resonance RC(=O)-NR2 <-> RC([O-])=[N+]R2, where R can be H. Unlike sp3 Ns (amines), amides are not strong H-bond acceptors, though both amides and amines are strong donors. This observation is consistent with sp2 character. -P. On Sat, Feb 13,

[Rdkit-discuss] hybridization of nitrogen in beta-lactam

2021-02-13 Thread Peter St. John
Is there any reason why RDKit says the nitrogen in beta-lactam is SP2-hybridized? I would have assumed it should be SP3. It doesn't seem to be the ring structure, 'C1NC1' lists all the atoms as being SP3. >>> [(atom.GetSymbol(), atom.GetHybridization()) for atom in