Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Minimising bits of molecules?

2013-11-27 Thread Michal Krompiec
Dear Paolo,
Is it possible to add also the option to freeze certain internal
coordinates (I am particularly interested in freezing the dihedral
angles)?
Best wishes,
Michal

On 26 November 2013 18:09, Paolo Tosco paolo.to...@unito.it wrote:
 Dear James,

 I will try to get it done during the weekend - I'll get back to you once
 it's ready.

 Best,
 Paolo



 On 11/26/2013 05:51 PM, James Davidson wrote:

 Dear All,



 I think this is probably one for Paolo – I was looking at fixing certain
 atoms during MMFF minimisation, but couldn’t find the option…  Then I
 re-read the UGM slides, and found the one titled “Force-field wish list”,
 and “fixed atoms” were one of the listed items!



 My intended use-case is the following:



 1.   Load protein-ligand complex into PyMOL

 2.   Make some changes to the bound ligand (using the Builder
 functionality)

 3.   Select atoms that are allowed to move (manual selection, then use
 of PyMOL’s ‘flag’ command)

 4.   Pass the molecule over to RDKit (already incorporated in a plugin
 we use), to minimise and then pass back (either as a new object, or apply
 the new coordinates to the existing object in situ)



 Actually, this process is already well-used by some of our chemists here –
 as a way of doing some simple modelling / idea exploration – but is
 currently using a much ‘flakier’ MMFF implementation.  So I would definitely
 like to move to RDKit for the minimisation – any idea when a ‘fixed atoms’
 option is likely to be added?



 Kind regards



 James


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[Rdkit-discuss] Minimising bits of molecules?

2013-11-26 Thread James Davidson
Dear All,

I think this is probably one for Paolo - I was looking at fixing certain atoms 
during MMFF minimisation, but couldn't find the option...  Then I re-read the 
UGM slides, and found the one titled Force-field wish list, and fixed atoms 
were one of the listed items!

My intended use-case is the following:


1.   Load protein-ligand complex into PyMOL

2.   Make some changes to the bound ligand (using the Builder functionality)

3.   Select atoms that are allowed to move (manual selection, then use of 
PyMOL's 'flag' command)

4.   Pass the molecule over to RDKit (already incorporated in a plugin we 
use), to minimise and then pass back (either as a new object, or apply the new 
coordinates to the existing object in situ)

Actually, this process is already well-used by some of our chemists here - as a 
way of doing some simple modelling / idea exploration - but is currently using 
a much 'flakier' MMFF implementation.  So I would definitely like to move to 
RDKit for the minimisation - any idea when a 'fixed atoms' option is likely to 
be added?

Kind regards

James

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Minimising bits of molecules?

2013-11-26 Thread Paolo Tosco

Dear James,

I will try to get it done during the weekend - I'll get back to you once 
it's ready.


Best,
Paolo


On 11/26/2013 05:51 PM, James Davidson wrote:


Dear All,

I think this is probably one for Paolo -- I was looking at fixing 
certain atoms during MMFF minimisation, but couldn't find the 
option...  Then I re-read the UGM slides, and found the one titled 
Force-field wish list, and fixed atoms were one of the listed items!


My intended use-case is the following:

1.Load protein-ligand complex into PyMOL

2.Make some changes to the bound ligand (using the Builder functionality)

3.Select atoms that are allowed to move (manual selection, then use of 
PyMOL's 'flag' command)


4.Pass the molecule over to RDKit (already incorporated in a plugin we 
use), to minimise and then pass back (either as a new object, or apply 
the new coordinates to the existing object in situ)


Actually, this process is already well-used by some of our chemists 
here -- as a way of doing some simple modelling / idea exploration -- 
but is currently using a much 'flakier' MMFF implementation.  So I 
would definitely like to move to RDKit for the minimisation -- any 
idea when a 'fixed atoms' option is likely to be added?


Kind regards

James


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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Minimising bits of molecules?

2013-11-26 Thread Greg Landrum
Excellent!

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

-greg

On Tuesday, November 26, 2013, Paolo Tosco wrote:

  Dear James,

 I will try to get it done during the weekend - I'll get back to you once
 it's ready.

 Best,
 Paolo


 On 11/26/2013 05:51 PM, James Davidson wrote:

  Dear All,



 I think this is probably one for Paolo – I was looking at fixing certain
 atoms during MMFF minimisation, but couldn’t find the option…  Then I
 re-read the UGM slides, and found the one titled “Force-field wish list”,
 and “fixed atoms” were one of the listed items!



 My intended use-case is the following:



 1.   Load protein-ligand complex into PyMOL

 2.   Make some changes to the bound ligand (using the Builder
 functionality)

 3.   Select atoms that are allowed to move (manual selection, then
 use of PyMOL’s ‘flag’ command)

 4.   Pass the molecule over to RDKit (already incorporated in a
 plugin we use), to minimise and then pass back (either as a new object, or
 apply the new coordinates to the existing object in situ)



 Actually, this process is already well-used by some of our chemists here –
 as a way of doing some simple modelling / idea exploration – but is
 currently using a much ‘flakier’ MMFF implementation.  So I would
 definitely like to move to RDKit for the minimisation – any idea when a
 ‘fixed atoms’ option is likely to be added?



 Kind regards



 James

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