Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Random structure generator based on chemical formula?

2020-06-16 Thread Jean-Marc Nuzillard
Dear all, I used the pyLSD software (http://eos.univ-reims.fr/LSD/JmnSoft/PyLSD/) to solve the problems of isomer generation for the C11H24 and C12H9N formula. The similarity of the two problems in only apparent. The 159 isomers of formula C11H24 were generated within a few seconds. I stopped

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Random structure generator based on chemical formula?

2020-06-16 Thread Joshua Meyers
Hey Theo, As others have mentioned, this is indeed a non-trivial problem. One method would be to use a de novo molecular generator with the aim of recovering these isomers. The ability of a generator to generate isomers is actually one of the benchmarks of a de novo method in GuacaMol. i.e. how

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Random structure generator based on chemical formula?

2020-06-15 Thread theozh
Hello Jan, thank you very much for your effort. It might take a while until I will have digested what you have implemented. So far, I don't have Jupyter Notebook installed and I'm running still RDKit 2019.03 or older. I'm running RDKit on Windows, but in general, it's might be a good opportunity

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Random structure generator based on chemical formula?

2020-06-14 Thread Jan Halborg Jensen
I whipped up something quick and dirty: https://colab.research.google.com/drive/18esebASwEfPviu-zn9xIs1fwmED-7Yi3?usp=sharing On 13 Jun 2020, at 10.54, theozh mailto:the...@gmx.net>> wrote: Dear RDKit-Community, is there maybe a way with RDKit to generate random (but valid) molecules with a

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Random structure generator based on chemical formula?

2020-06-14 Thread Jan Halborg Jensen
As Nils mentioned this is not trivial. There is a program that does this (molgen.de) but I believe it’s commercial. Have a look at DOI 10.1002/anie.200462457 and reference 7 in that paper. It’s even more difficult if you only want realistic, i.e. stable and synthetically accessible, molecules.

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Random structure generator based on chemical formula?

2020-06-14 Thread theozh
Hi Nils, thank you for the links and mentioning that this is not a trivial task. This project looks very interesting. However, unfortunately, I'm "bound" to Windows and the page says "Windows is not supported yet". The last activity seems to be 2 or 3 years ago... Looks like at some point I

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Random structure generator based on chemical formula?

2020-06-13 Thread Nils Weskamp
Hi Theo, this kind of structure elucidation is unfortunately not as trivial as it may sound. Not based on RDKit, but maybe still worth looking at: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22985496/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/openmg/ Hope this helps, Nils Am 13.06.2020 um 10:54 schrieb theozh: >

[Rdkit-discuss] Random structure generator based on chemical formula?

2020-06-13 Thread theozh
Dear RDKit-Community, is there maybe a way with RDKit to generate random (but valid) molecules with a given chemical sumformula? For example: C12H9N could generate Carbazole as valid compound. The output would be mol or SMILES. I haven't found (yet) anything in this direction in the RDKit