Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Announcement: 1st RDKit User Group Meeting scheduled

2012-07-06 Thread JP
I just noticed that this is a user meeting and not a dev one - so
perhaps such a topic is out of scope...

-
Jean-Paul Ebejer
Early Stage Researcher


On 4 July 2012 16:52, Greg Landrum greg.land...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:38 PM, JP jeanpaul.ebe...@inhibox.com wrote:
  A suggestion, if I'm allowed.

 suggestions are always allowed. They may, of course, be ignored. ;-)

  I am trying to build a PDB file parser to return an rdkit mol
 (representing
  a protein) from a pdb file.
 
  I have battled and partially won the glue code between C++ and python.
  This
  was by far the most difficult bit extending rdkit.  But there have been
  casualties and I am not sure I 100% understand what is going on (how is
 my
  code automatically residing in the Chem package? why do you need this
 struct
  anyway?).  If I may suggest a hands on/tutorial session at the RDKit user
  meeting on this -- I think it will be a topic worth broaching.  If there
 is
  enough interest, a free slot in the programme and someone with the
  capabilities to explain of course.

 Capabilities to explain is, of course, not a problem. I'm also happy
 to do it, but the topic is pretty specialized, so I wonder how many
 others would be interested.

 -greg

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Announcement: 1st RDKit User Group Meeting scheduled

2012-07-06 Thread Greg Landrum
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM, JP jeanpaul.ebe...@inhibox.com wrote:
 I just noticed that this is a user meeting and not a dev one - so
 perhaps such a topic is out of scope...


eh, that depends. C++ users of the code are also users. I'm more
concerned about having a session that only 2 people are interested in.
To accommodate that we would have to do breakout sessions, and we
hadn't planned to do such a thing.

I will see if I can come up with a sensible demo that shows how to
create a new python extension module using RDKit functionality. This
should at least make some stuff easier for others in the future.

-greg

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Announcement: 1st RDKit User Group Meeting scheduled

2012-07-06 Thread Adrian JasiƄski
I have the question connected with the topic,
Is there any temporary plan of the meeting or topics which will be
discussed during this event?
If yes where I can find it?
If no will it be announced and when?

I suggest to publish such a list of topics and to vote for most
interesting of them.

2012/7/6 Greg Landrum greg.land...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM, JP jeanpaul.ebe...@inhibox.com wrote:
 I just noticed that this is a user meeting and not a dev one - so
 perhaps such a topic is out of scope...


 eh, that depends. C++ users of the code are also users. I'm more
 concerned about having a session that only 2 people are interested in.
 To accommodate that we would have to do breakout sessions, and we
 hadn't planned to do such a thing.

 I will see if I can come up with a sensible demo that shows how to
 create a new python extension module using RDKit functionality. This
 should at least make some stuff easier for others in the future.

 -greg

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Announcement: 1st RDKit User Group Meeting scheduled

2012-07-06 Thread Paul Emsley
  On 06/07/12 10:06, JP wrote:
 I just noticed that this is a user meeting and not a dev one - so 
 perhaps such a topic is out of scope...

What's the difference?

A user uses python and a dev uses python, boost.python and c++?

Anyway, I too (AFAICS ATM) would be interested in your suggestion (FWIW).

Paul.


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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Announcement: 1st RDKit User Group Meeting scheduled

2012-07-06 Thread JP
IMHO I think the main difference is that a user is a consumer of the API
(so just calling the available methods), while a developer is one who
builds new functionality and extends RDKit's API and internals.  That the
user in this case is also a software developer somewhat blurs this
distinction.

The python wrapper is an example of something which a developer of RDKit
would be interested in.  But for the end user of RDKit, be it C++ or
python, this layer is transparent and of no interest.

HAGD!

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Jean-Paul Ebejer
Early Stage Researcher


On 6 July 2012 13:05, Paul Emsley paul.ems...@bioch.ox.ac.uk wrote:

   On 06/07/12 10:06, JP wrote:
  I just noticed that this is a user meeting and not a dev one - so
  perhaps such a topic is out of scope...

 What's the difference?

 A user uses python and a dev uses python, boost.python and c++?

 Anyway, I too (AFAICS ATM) would be interested in your suggestion (FWIW).

 Paul.



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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Announcement: 1st RDKit User Group Meeting scheduled

2012-07-04 Thread Greg Landrum
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:38 PM, JP jeanpaul.ebe...@inhibox.com wrote:
 A suggestion, if I'm allowed.

suggestions are always allowed. They may, of course, be ignored. ;-)

 I am trying to build a PDB file parser to return an rdkit mol (representing
 a protein) from a pdb file.

 I have battled and partially won the glue code between C++ and python.  This
 was by far the most difficult bit extending rdkit.  But there have been
 casualties and I am not sure I 100% understand what is going on (how is my
 code automatically residing in the Chem package? why do you need this struct
 anyway?).  If I may suggest a hands on/tutorial session at the RDKit user
 meeting on this -- I think it will be a topic worth broaching.  If there is
 enough interest, a free slot in the programme and someone with the
 capabilities to explain of course.

Capabilities to explain is, of course, not a problem. I'm also happy
to do it, but the topic is pretty specialized, so I wonder how many
others would be interested.

-greg

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