Does the Avalon system have the ability to monitor an AC 400 amp service?
I know the Envy does not. I ran into this in one of my installs, the envy
does not support paralleling CTs to monitor paralleled main feeds.
And besides, you can’t, at least several months ago even monitor a single
feed 400
Hey Darryl,
I got involved with the Schneider Home all in one (same thing as
Fortress Avalon) Before that I was involved with another Schneider HV
all in one long before Solark. Omnia failed to get to market. I get the
hee bee jeebies with that kind of voltage offgrid. The numerous various
It’s an interesting design. I went to a seminar on it. Wiring the main power distribution center, is a bit tricky with how they designed or not wire room. Probably want to use cobra wire. The battery voltage design is unusual in that more batteries increases the voltage, not bad just different.
I am looking at going high voltage as opposed to 48 volts. This is my
largest battery system, I have a large distance between battery and
inverter, 40 feet, the cost of wire, 50 kW, at 50 volts is 1000 amps. I am
thinking this is too big for me.
On Tue, May 14, 2024, 7:29 PM Mac Lewis via
Dave,
Just to play devils advocate, what are your reasons as to why high voltage
isn’t worthy of OG?
I say this being firmly stuck in 48VDC off-grid systems.
Kindly,
Chris
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:42 PM William Miller via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
> Dave:
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Dave:
Have you actually used the product?
William Miller
Miller Solar.com
805-438-5600
www.millersolar.com
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 5:38 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
wrote:
> Huge mistake to me to use high voltage battery. I am biased for offgrid.
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> *Dave Angelini
Huge mistake to me to use high voltage battery. I am biased for
offgrid.
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On 2024-05-14 5:28 pm, Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches wrote:
Hello
Hello Wrenches,
I am looking closely at offering the Fortress Avalon system. I would like
to hear from anyone that has installed, commissioned and seen them work in
the field. Pros and cons, all of your thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks!
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Hi william
Could you share the equipment used and what issues you had?
Thx
Jay
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> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.
spring.com
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Fortress
Good morning my fellow wrenchers. While I see the comments on SunPower
and the challenges, are any of you having similar issues with Fortress?
Their bms boards from the early classics have not held up and even
after replacement there are still issues
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> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Peter Giroux via RE-wrenches
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2024 6:47 AM
> *To:* 'RE-wrenches'
> *Cc:* pgir...@mindspring.com
> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Fortress
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> Good morning my fellow wrenchers. Wh
Lic. 773985 From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Peter Giroux via RE-wrenchesSent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 6:47 AMTo: 'RE-wrenches'Cc: pgir...@mindspring.comSubject: [RE-wrenches] Fortress Good morning my fellow wrenchers. While I see the comments
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*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2024 6:47 AM
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*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Fortress
Good morning my fellow wrenchers. While I see the comments on SunPower and
the challenges, are any of you having similar issues with Fortress? Their
bms boards
Hi Peter,
I was called in to consult on a new existing 4x Fortress E flex /
Schneider XWP system that worked fine open loop but never communicated
with the Schneider gateway. Fortress to their credit sent a tech out and
he did Fortress FW and a PC exchange. Still not working.
The owner was
The BMS in the eVault Classic has been a headache.
Fortunately, we were able to convince Fortress to let us proactively
replace the BMS in some of our systems - especially the remote off-grid
systems. We are still having problems with weird SOC readings on many of
the batteries. Apparently the SOC
Good morning my fellow wrenchers. While I see the comments on SunPower and
the challenges, are any of you having similar issues with Fortress? Their
bms boards from the early classics have not held up and even after
replacement there are still issues ( parallel batteries and stand alone not
AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Cc:* Kirk Herander
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress remote monitoring
Yep, I found this out when I installed my first Fortress Evault / Envy
inverter combo last month.
What was also a bit different at first is the fact there are -2- different
apps: the Guardian
Yep, I found this out when I installed my first Fortress Evault / Envy
inverter combo last month.
What was also a bit different at first is the fact there are -2- different
apps: the Guardian gateway app and the Envy inverter app. I bought the
guardian thinking it was the only way to see the
Here is an official communication from Fortress that we received recently
when inquiring about monitoring Fortress batteries as an Installer. Some
of you may find the info relevant.
-- Forwarded message -
From:
Date: Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 12:37 PM
Subject: Re:[## 5635 ##] Remote
Interesting on the "mesh" wifi. That is good to know.
And yes, the site I linked is for the Guardian data. I don't know if there
is a separate site for the Envy data, but I'll find out in a couple weeks
when I install my first Envy inverter system. For what it's worth, their
tech support has been
Yeah, I tried that site the other day, my browser gave me warning messages,
so I left it alone. So that site will be online access to the Guardian
gateway data? I wonder if thats true for the Envy app also.
PS I found out the Guardian gateway will not recognise a newer "mesh" wifi
signal.
Kirk,
I know that with the Guardian Battery monitor the app is working, but they
are doing a major overhaul on the website. My login info does not work on
the website right now, and I am told that it will not be available until
the new year. The website is:
https://app.fortresspower.io/
Cheers,
Hello,
I installed an Evault 18.5 with Envy 8kw inverter the other day. I'm
wondering if there is any way to actually monitor / download system data
from a desktop computer? Can't find anything in the Fortress docs (some of
which appear to be WIP for content) about this. The Fortress mobile apps
Kirk,
I was going to make the jump to Fortress Envy after the recent NABCEP
conference. Seemed like a good way to go, i.e. one company to deal with and
about same features as SA. When I went to purchase from well known (unnamed)
dist, I was warned away due to unresolved issues with AC coupling.
Kirk
Personally I would go with solark that's what they do, make inverters not
other stuff just like I would use Fortress for the battery because that's
what they do, is it similar sure but why? If it's the same then go with a
known product and track record, we are seeing this mre and more and
Hello, just an onion of an old person. I have needed a lot of tech help, I
find Sol-Ark the best tech, So I would go with experiance.
On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 11:19 AM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am sizing my first Fortress system,
This is incorrect. Deye does not make the ENVY.
Contact me off list if you want to discuss
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> On Jun 1, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches
> wrote:
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> Hi Kirk
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> It’s the same Chinese company who makes both. Deye
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> If I understand correctly sol ark’s
Kirk,
I have not tried the new Envy inverter, and at the moment am slightly
reluctant to do so, mostly because I have gone all in on Sol-Ark/eVault Max
setups for battery based systems and I hate having more and more different
products to stay on top of. That being said, I attended an Envy
Hi KirkIt’s the same Chinese company who makes both. Deye If I understand correctly sol ark’s exclusive arrangement with Deye ended. JayOn Jun 1, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches wrote:Hello All,I am sizing my first Fortress system, 18.5kwh LFPs w/ their new ENVY inverter. Or
Hello All,
I am sizing my first Fortress system, 18.5kwh LFPs w/ their new ENVY
inverter. Or would a Sol-Ark be a better fit? I understand both inverters
are somewhat similar.
Any opinions from the real-world of installs would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
--
*Kirk Herander /
Wondering if anyone has used the new 12kW Fortress Envy inverter in an AC
coupled system yet and what sort of results you might have seen? I’ve heard
that this inverter is made by the same manufacturer as SolArk. Don’t know if
that’s true or not, but find it interesting.
Best Regards,
Jeremy
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From: RE-wrenches on behalf of
Chris Schaefer via RE-wrenches
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 11:01 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Cc: Chris Schaefer
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress B
Ray,
I'd suggest reaching out to the Fortress techie's as they just introduced a
heater product for their enclosure products. While I don't believe they
have a unit specif to the eVault but you should be able to make it work.
Christopher
On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 6:43 PM Jerry Shafer via
Pet heater have worked for me, I air gap a sealed heater box under the
battery, thermostat inside the top of the battery. It's slow and low power
but does the trick
Fun times
On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, 3:05 PM Ray Walters via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
> Hi All;
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> I
Hi All;
I have a fresh Fortress Evault installation with a Solark inverter. The
batteries are indoors in the center of the house, but the customer is
not there full time, so the battery is unfortunately going below
freezing. What are the best options for setting up a heating system for
the
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From: RE-wrenches on behalf of Ray
Walters via RE-wrenches
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 1:14 PM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Cc: Ray Walters
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fortress Battery Problems
I finally hear
Hey all, I really like Fortress and I’ve had amazingly good experiences with
their support. I have had 3 different interactions with Fortress technical
support. They’ve supported me very very well. They don’t have a good phone
number for me to call, but I fill out an online ticket and then the
Fortress has been great for me/and my clients and they have webinars all
the time.Not sure why you guy's are not going to them?
Below is one this week.
Aloha Jeremy,I would like to join this call.We have numerous Fortress systems installed.Sent from a IPhone, with touch screen keys on the fly. Please excuse shortcuts and typos. Roland ShackelfordNABCEP CERTIFIED PV INSTALLERPresident Renewable Energy Services (RES), Inc. Mobile:
Jeremy,
I would love to have an opportunity to talk with Fortress about their
support process. I am just in the tail end of installing 2 Sol-Ark/Fortress
off grid systems (one 15k with 2 eVaults and two 15ks with 5 eVaults). I've
been very impressed with both pieces of equipment so far. However,
This is great to hear even as l have used fortress with no tech support
issues but rather than a phone conversation a zoom might be better as you
can hear and see from the horses mouth. Add in all the notes of all of the
questions and get an answer back one time not a dozen.
Just a thought
Jerry
HI Wrenches,
A couple of weeks ago this thread came up - main topic was lack of tech support
from Fortress. A few days later I was contacted by Marc Zeitlin, Fortress’s
Regional sales manager Midwest. We haven’t used Fortress yet, but I basically
reiterated the concerns that were expressed on
Wrenches and Ray
So did you properly configuer the master slave battery config, I have
several set up with no issues SOC is within1 to 2% and volatge is the same,
what inverter/chargers are you using are you still connnected to bat temp
sensors I assume there is no connection to the inverter(s)
I finally heard back from Fortress, I'm going to try their suggestion of
"equalizing" the batteries at 55.5 v, and adjust some settings. I'll
report back to the list on what I come up with. This is an interesting
application: quad stack of VFX inverters with Midnite CCs. Using the
aux out
Hi Ray,
I would suggest pushing the latest firmware update to both units.
https://www.fortresspower.com/firmware/
re: tech support…
I have had good luck speaking directly to Tom:
Thomas Honey
Fortress Power
Applications Engineering
(215) 613-4318 x4318
t...@fortresspower.com
I agree that
Hi Ray,
I have been having a difficult time communicating with Fortress as well. I
filed a support ticket several times and only got a response a couple of
days later asking another question that was easily answered, but then do
not receive any reply to that without filing another support ticket,
Greetings Fellow Wrenches;
Based on glowing reports from the RE list, I finally used Fortress for a
battery replacement for a long time customer. Overall, it seems to be a
better solution than others I've seen. However, we are having issues.
First the two batteries are supposed to be linked
My experience and advice from Tech Support at Fortress was NOT to network
the eVault 18.5 with only 2 batteries. We just installed two eVault18.5
with one Sol-Ark12K. The communication doesn't work properly with only two
batteries. The tech advised to run both batteries independently as Masters,
I think this was mentioned by others, but Fortress confirmed to me today
that closed loop only works with one or two evault batteries with Sol-Ark.
More than that and communications breaks down. They're working on a fix,
but they told me that there are no guarantees. They could not give me a
date.
Hi Jay,
Yes, when installed in a closed loop configuration, the Sol Ark uses the
SOC% provided by the BMS...which can be used to control the AGS.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 1:58 PM Jay wrote:
> Thx Chris.
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> Does the sol ark use the % info from the batteries for ags operation?
>
> Jay
>
> On Feb
Thx Chris.
Does the sol ark use the % info from the batteries for ags operation?
Jay
> On Feb 1, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Chris Sparadeo wrote:
>
>
> Jay,
>
> I have installed the eFlex paired with Sol Ark and it was very straight
> forward. You need to make a modified RJ45 cable, but other
Jay,
I have installed the eFlex paired with Sol Ark and it was very straight
forward. You need to make a modified RJ45 cable, but other than that, it’s
pretty much plug and play. I believe that Fortress is still working on
their WiFi monitoring for the eFlex...They say the eVault will be closed
Jay,
I worked with them on the XW to close the loop. They did get it working
with Eflex and it is easy to commission. However, they were not able to get
the conext insight data out to the cloud totally implemented. Until they
prove that to me, I will stay with Discover AES. The site at the bottom
Some questions to those installing fortress power.
1. has anyone installed them in a closed loop comm and if so, which inverter
2. it doesn’t appear that there is any online or app for
communication/monitoring?
thx
jay
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Anyone have any comments on Fortress LFP batteries please?
I already
know that they do not integrate directly with Outback and Schneider. One
must use a battery monitor.
I believe that the Fortress battery does not
have a display for Soc, could be wrong.
Thank-you!
Dave Angelini
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