I think it is the battery that is most important in closed loop, as that is where the cost/warranty is. I have an email out on this for another friend and will get back. Below is the SMA Island manual for Discover AES battery link. Each Inverter company has a manual from AES for their battery. Not sure why an Inverter make would not want to do this but...

https://discoverbattery.com/s4x_files/resources/des-lynk-2-sma-manual.pdf

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On 2024-03-01 5:06 pm, Glenn Burt wrote:

Again, just because a battery manufacturer says they are compatible with an inverter, does not mean the inverter manufacturer agrees, supports it, or will answer service calls regarding it.
Not a risk I am willing to take.

-Glenn
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From: Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
Date: Fri, Mar 1, 2024 8:03 PM
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Subject:Re: [RE-wrenches] Older Sunny Islands charging newer Lithium's

AES is closed loop with 7 inverter manufacturers (not Outback and I do not know why) including SMA. Not sure on the particulars but you should check them out with Lync2 interface. I just use them closed loop with XW and they can charge 40% faster.

https://discoverlithium.com/products/lithium-batteries/aes-rackmount

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On 2024-03-01 4 [3]:43 pm, Glenn Burt via RE-wrenches wrote:

I recently went through this wxwrcise with an old customer of mine as well. I spent a lot of time researching options. Manufacturers and conversations with SMA regarding their support of a conversion to Life storage. Bottom line for me was that SMA does not support any lithium battery manufacturer available in the US. I stuck with exact replacement batteries for those that were exhausted, Concorde AGM's.

-Glenn
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From: Peter Giroux via RE-wrenches
Date: Fri, Mar 1, 2024 3:52 PM
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Subject:[RE-wrenches] Older Sunny Islands charging newer Lithium's

My fellow wrenchers. Have sought help from SMA but they just defer to owner's manuals and the older batteries listed.. I have a customer with two SMA 5048's, roughly 11 years old and appear to be working fine. Customer wants to move to LIPO batteries and keep his SMA's. Has anybody made these transitions and how did you do it, not sure the SMA programing for LIPO's works the way Lithium's need. Any and all help and ideas appreciated.

Thx

Peter Giroux

American Solar & Alternative Energy Solutions inc
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