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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] midnite new inverter
Bill,
Now that you mention it I did not have an SPD near the inverter, I
Bill,
Now that you mention it I did not have an SPD near the inverter, I have
one on 1 of 2 TOP Racks, other rack with old Delta... My inverter lives on
my workbench to allow swapping other inverters in for load testing using my
whole house with everything connected to ancient wiring which
John,
Just curious if you had SPDs (like Midnites) in either
system? AC side, DC side
Bill
Feather River Solar Electric
Bill Battagin, owner
4291 Nelson St. (Shipping)
5575 Genesee Rd. (USPS, UPS)
Taylorsville, CA 95983
530-284-7849, 258-1641(cell)
CA. C10 Lic # 874049
Solar
I wish bob and the boyz good luck on this product. Always support North
American companies!!
I do not have much experience in the all in ones, but the one thing I
would look for is how it responds to imbalance
on split phase loads. The bad experiences on (won't say the Chinese name
of
I was under the same impression as David. At one point when I looked into it
all the electrical specifications appeared identical. Lux isn’t made by Deye?
Ripping off designs within China isn’t just exclusive to the US? Good ole
inverter manufacturer family incest? Does the main difference only
This is exactly the situation that the midnite AIO is addressing or similar.
Lets say that you go with 11 panels ( and that works keeping it under 600voc).
If you go with enphase, thats about $3000 with cable. Plus you’ll need larger
wire due to it only being 240vac vs closer to 380vdc for a
OK thanks for the correction. It's confusing to me because the external
chassis is identical
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Maverick
The new inverter is NOT a rebrand. The Inverter is mainly designed by
Midnite Solar, and is manufactured at a Tier 1 facility in Asia.
It is a MNS Prodcut through and Through, just missing the cool cabinet and
black paint.
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 1:06 PM Maverick Brown
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LoganIs MidNite making the AIO or is it rebrand like the other guys? If MidNite is actually making it, that adds a whole new level of interest. MidNite makes great products already. This would be a game changer.Thank you,MaverickMaverick BrownOff-Grid Solar Commander since 2006Maverick Solar
Hi David,
I’m going to disagree.
The fortress and EG4 are made by LUX.
It says so right on the cover.
And I’ve talked to Fortress about this.
Sol Ark is made by Deye
Jay
> On Apr 10, 2024, at 10:12 AM, david quattro wrote:
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> I have not installed an Fortress yet, but I know they are made
I understand this. Whereas I can set absorb times and charged return ampsnfor an FM80, my SolArk appears to give generic times based on size of battery bank. Maybe it's a minimal issue but fact that Rolls has identified a concern is noteworthy to me.Thanks.Howard "Scot" AreyOwner, Solar
I have not installed an Fortress yet, but I know they are made by Deye
(same Chinese original manufacturer as SolArk inverters)
Here is a link for an excellent instructional by Steve Higgins @ Rolls -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJqBULN9MgI=ygUWcm9sbHMgc3VycmV0dGUgaGlnZ2lucw%3D%3D
This assumes
All
As a Beta tester and being a part of the development of the MNS All in
One, MNS is working to ensure that the current limitations from the use
of LA batteries will be addressed and supported.
MNS is addressing the concerns of using an AOI inverter because failure
will require the R of the
Good Morning Wrenches...
When it comes to lead batteries, just be cautious of the all-in-ones and
some of the hybrid inverters.
Most of these inverters were not designed for Lead batteries and will
struggle to charge them, resulting in sulfation (undercharging) issues.
Eventually, this will lead
John
The New MidNite AIO is completely field serviceable. If you have an
issue (say lightning) MNS will stock all the needed boards and everything
can be replaced on the wall.
On a scale of one to ten, it's a 7 with 10 being the hardest (lots of
screws). Only tools needed are an 11in One, pliers,
Can you explain what changes the eg4 18 inverter has vs the Envy as to LA
programming?
To me the Envy has a big advantage due to it having AGS warm up/cool down that
the EG4 does not.
Jay
> On Apr 10, 2024, at 7:49 AM, Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches
> wrote:
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> John,
> If you are
Wrenches,
All in one boxes are easy to install and look all pretty and clean but is
it really a good idea to have the CC, Inverter, Ats, bms, breakers all in
one. cabinet. In the past this has not been the best long term solution.
Seperate serviceable components are always better.
Fun times
On
John,
If you are thinking of pairing the Envy with lead-acid batteries, I would
strongly suggest not doing it. Even though Fortress sales advertises the
Envy to be compatible with lead-acid, after trying it in my off-grid home,
I would emphatically say that it is not. The programming is
Time will tell where the failure modes are. I still don't like all the
eggs in one basket. Do you have to send the units back for repair? Had
enough of that with Trace SW series inverters..
For off grid, I'll stick to the tried and true for now. For Grid tie it is
just a financial hit. For
Hi scott
Yes I think for new larger systems the AIO are the present/future
Jay
> On Apr 9, 2024, at 9:42 PM, scot.a...@solarcentex.com wrote:
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>
> Wow, are we in the golden age of inverter/chargers? If it had 200-a.p pass
> thru it would be near perfect.
>
> Begs the question: are stand
Wow, are we in the golden age of inverter/chargers? If it had 200-a.p pass thru it would be near perfect.Begs the question: are stand alone charge controllers becoming a historical artifact?Howard "Scot" AreyOwner, Solar CenTex254-300-1228
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The last I heard, they are shipping this month or early next month. The
pricing is supposed to be comparable to the other all in ones (Envy,
Sol-Ark, EG4, etc.) deportment on your distributor.
Howie
On Tue, Apr 9, 2024, 6:55 PM jay via RE-wrenches <
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Hi All,
Does anyone know the pricing and when it’ll be available?
The New Midnite MN15-12KW-AIO All in One (AIO) inverter
Looks good.
thanks
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