Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-07-01 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
a manufacturer should supply guidance on this. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022, 1:02 PM Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches < >>>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Tape is not approved as a wire retainin

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-30 Thread Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches
via RE-wrenches < >>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Tape is not approved as a wire retaining device as far as I can find in >>>> the NEC :-] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>&g

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-30 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
.@solarwork.com - C - 208.721.7003 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* RE-wrenches *On >>> Behalf Of *Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches >>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 2, 2022 9:40 AM >>> *To:* RE-wrenches >>> *Cc:* Jerry Shafer >>> *Subje

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-04 Thread don energysolarnow.com via RE-wrenches
No you certainly cannot rely on that tape for long. We use stainless wire clips like Heyco SunRunner or RevRunner attached to the module frame. https://www.heyco.com/Solar_Power_Components/?sub=wire-management The QCells AC modules have the microinverters attached so they hang down past the

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches
:40 AM > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Cc:* Jerry Shafer > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module > > > > Regarding the tape on the back sheet > > I have seen Novis installers keep the tape to secure the modules and I > have also seen it with th

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread Rebekah Hren via RE-wrenches
retaining device as far as I can find in > the NEC :-] > > > > > > Dana Orzel - E - d...@solarwork.com - C - 208.721.7003 > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches *On > Behalf Of *Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches > *Sent:* Thursday, June 2, 2022 9:40 AM > *To:* RE-wrenches &

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module Regarding the tape on the back sheet I have seen Novis installers keep the tape to secure the modules and I have also seen it with the tape stll attached to the wires laying on the roof so in my humble opinion the tape is for shipping

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread Chris Schaefer via RE-wrenches
G'day All I rarely do roofs but I can tell you with my pole, ground or DAT projects it's nearly impossible to cover the modules with a screening product for safety reasons. I refuse to use the mid panel j-box modules. I'm not one for boycotts but just use the old school modules with the j-box

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
These modules are designed for racking w/o MLPE and the rest of the world that doesn’t use MLPE. And code in both 300.11 and 330 ish say that wires need to be supported between 6” and 12” ( I’m not sure which is the correct one to use, I’ve always been told to use 12”) from any box or

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches
I didn't snap a photo yesterday, but next week I will certainly take some photos, and report back on what we figure out. Definitely sounds like tape is not a permanent solution. Cheers, Dave On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 11:39 AM Jerry Shafer wrote: > Regarding the tape on the back sheet > I have seen

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
Regarding the tape on the back sheet I have seen Novis installers keep the tape to secure the modules and I have also seen it with the tape stll attached to the wires laying on the roof so in my humble opinion the tape is for shipping only and is not to be used as a wire management system. Jerry

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
enches] wire management on Qcell AC module That's concerning. We just added these to our product offerings. I reviewed the QCell installation manual for this product and there doesn't seem to be any guidance on the subject. Are the DC leads tight enough when connected to the microin

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module Hi All, I just got some of the Qcell 360w AC modules that have the Enphase microinverter factory applied to the back. The module is the half cut cell type with the DC leads coming from either side of the middle of the module. The modules

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches
I just got a quick look at them on the pallet when they arrived on site yesterday. We will be starting this installation next week, so I can report back with more details then. Cheers, Dave On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 9:47 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches
That's concerning. We just added these to our product offerings. I reviewed the QCell installation manual for this product and there doesn't seem to be any guidance on the subject. Are the DC leads tight enough when connected to the microinverter that they would not sag enough to touch the roof,

[RE-wrenches] wire management on Qcell AC module

2022-06-02 Thread Dave Tedeyan via RE-wrenches
Hi All, I just got some of the Qcell 360w AC modules that have the Enphase microinverter factory applied to the back. The module is the half cut cell type with the DC leads coming from either side of the middle of the module. The modules come with the wires taped to the back of the module. If you