Re: [recoznettwo] the first casualty?

2001-09-14 Thread tim dunlop
The claim that the CNN footage of rejoicing Palestinians dates from 1991 is being refuted by CNN, so as I posted the claim on this list, let me be the first to post their response and defence. Cheers - Tim There is a viral email doing the rounds internationally (see foot of email as sent to a

Re: [recoznettwo] the first casualty?

2001-09-14 Thread tim dunlop
All good points, Rod. The CNN thing I posted was from a closed list that was the first place I saw the fake claim. That is, CNN responded to the claim on that list. Counterpunch, who published the original fake claim have taken the story off their site, with no explanation. I've written

[recoznettwo] the first casualty?

2001-09-13 Thread tim dunlop
Interesting little thing I just picked up. Apparently the CNN footage of the Palestinians dancing in the street over the US tragedy is fake: that is, the Counterpunch media-watch organisation (counterpunch.org) reports that Marcio A.V. Carvalho of the state university of Campinas in Brazil

Re: [recoznettwo] Re Afghan refugees

2001-09-03 Thread tim dunlop
Laurie wrote: Perhaps we do it by calling them cowards when they behave like cowards, dishonest when they behave dishonestly, racists when they behave like racists etc.shame them into acting more responsiblymore of a push than a nudge, but maybe that is what is needed. I agree

Re: [recoznettwo] The past is catching up

2001-08-30 Thread tim dunlop
snip For the first time possibly the world will get a glimpse the Australian xenophobia. The refugee story is the lead on the BBC web site this evening. It appears that we are the brutal, inhuman people that our history book have tried to conceal. The sheer nonsense underpinning this

Re: [recoznettwo] Treatynet?

2001-08-19 Thread tim dunlop
This has nothing really to do with Laurie's post, but does anyone know if Germaine got Aboriginal permission to enter Australia this time as she--in her best chastise Australians mode--promised she would always do? Cheers - Tim - Original Message - From: Laurie Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [recoznettwo] Online poll

2001-08-16 Thread tim dunlop
Laurie asked: Hi Tim, Could you give an example of what you consider to be a non-judgemental, helpful to reconciliation, unhypocritical contribution to the list, I used to learn a lot from Tony Spier's contributions, which I thought had a lot of dignity. Still there, Tony? Laurie also

Re: [recoznettwo] Online poll

2001-08-15 Thread tim dunlop
These online polls are meaningless, worse than other forms of polling, which are bad enough. It is completely pointless being shocked by their results and drawing conclusions about what people really think. Ruddock, or more likely, one of the undead he employs in his office, can sit there and

Re: [recoznettwo] Online poll

2001-08-15 Thread tim dunlop
Even if we put direct vote manipulation aside, what does a No answer to that particular question mean anyway? I can easily imagine answering Yes to that form of words. What would it prove? What does the question even mean? The idea of labelling a group of people as redneck or progressive on

Re: [recoznettwo] Online poll

2001-08-15 Thread tim dunlop
As much as I enjoy some of the discussion on this list (not that there is much these days) and the endless supply of interesting info, it is also a place that exhibits some of the most amazing narrow-mindedness. Some of the judgemental comments that are made about ordinary Australians would be