Re: FAQ (was: Lousy answers)

2003-10-16 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 12:11:43PM -0400, Edward Croft wrote The point I was trying to make was that the incident that I initially spoke out on was when a list member returned to the list, said just that, and asked if there was any word on RH10. Now think about it for a moment, he hasn't been

[OT] Rudeness and Netiquette (was: FAQ)

2003-10-16 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 08:02:16AM -0400, Edward Croft wrote: Well, then, if we are to look up the answers ourselves, and frankly the resources in a lot of cases are lacking, incomplete, etc., and we aren't welcomed here to ask questions, then what good is this list? I think you misunderstood

Re: Lousy answers

2003-10-15 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 02:59:23AM +0200, R Sánchez wrote: I just felt something had to be said here. In the last few weeks I've seen a lot of really lousy answers, the most of them with the Red Hat 10/Fedora stuff, but there have been others. Every now and then someone new stops in to the

FAQ (was: Lousy answers)

2003-10-15 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 09:29:37AM +0200, Jim Herrick wrote: Sounds like we need an FAQ! The problem is, that - according to experience - those that are too lazy to read the documentation or use Google/archives are too lazy to read the FAQ as well, so it won't help as much as desired...

Re: Product Pricing

2003-10-07 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 03:37:43AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:55:19 -0400, William J. Salvino wrote: [...] Will there be a new-release boxed Red Hat operating system priced at $39.99 or less with or without support or printed materials? Different question: What

Re: procmail expert needed

2003-10-07 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 10:18:42PM -0400, Eric Wood wrote: Basically I want search for key terms only after stripping the HTML from the message because many spammers split up words with fake html tags, ie viewgfwegagrgrwja. [...] Any ideas? Why not use SpamAssassin, after teaching it a

Re: Red Hat Professional Workstation - it lives!

2003-10-07 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 03:08:34PM -0600, Bill Anderson wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 15:59, T. Ribbrock wrote: $100.- ?!?!? Definitely not targeted at the home user, meethinks, Hence the name; Professional Workstation as opposed to Home USer Desktop ;) Some people seem to regard

Fedora CDs (was: Product Pricing)

2003-10-07 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:39:04PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen a reference on another mailing list that Red Hat has taken steps to ensure that outfits like Cheapbytes have a simple, legally unambiguous way to make copies available. So, there should be a CD or DVD based

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff Wimmer wrote: [...] Gnome and KDE look SO amatureish and unprofessional. Even XFCE which looked a lot like CDE has started to look like Gnome. CDE is the most professional desktop I've seen on linux, [...] Ahem. You *are* aware that this is

Re: Red Hat Professional Workstation - it lives!

2003-10-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 02:15:26PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: BUY.COM now has the product online with a release date of 10/26/2003. Their price is $100.99. Don't forget that it includes a full year of RHN which by itself is $60.

Re: Fedora madness

2003-09-29 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 02:10:56PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 02:15:05 +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: Is anyone else subscribing to the fedora list yet? Yes, because all subscribers of the rhl-* lists have been transferred to the fedora-* lists. Effectively

Re: Fedora madness

2003-09-29 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 01:31:48PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: [...] Effectively, the following lists that were introduced together with the original Red Hat Linux Project website: rhl-list rhl-devel-list rhl-beta-list rhl-docs-list Thanks for the clarification. Learn something

Re: Fedora madness

2003-09-27 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 04:40:27PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:30:11 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: Is anyone else subscribing to the fedora list yet? Yes, because all subscribers of the rhl-* lists have been transferred to the fedora-* lists. Effectively, the rhl-*

Re: Fedora

2003-09-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 09:09:06AM -0500, Mike Vanecek wrote: What options are left to the SOHO server user if not Fedora or SUSE? I've never used anything except RH, but would like to start thinking about a fall back plan in case Fedora is too bleeding edge for my needs. How about Mandrake?

Re: Fedora

2003-09-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 11:27:23AM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: [...] 1. You had the free package available for, well, free, and Red Hat did not provide automatic updates. However, you _could_ get those using other tools like yum, current, and apt-get. Fedora will still be free,

Re: Fedora

2003-09-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:18:39AM +1000, Ian Mortimer wrote: What options are left to the SOHO server user if not Fedora or SUSE? How about Mandrake? On a server? Debian or FreeBSD are likely to be more stable. Why not Mandrake on a server? I haven't used it for that (my only

Re: Moving Viewport with keyboard?

2003-09-12 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:18:17AM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: This is really a seperate issue from your original question but it is pretty easy to map other keys. For instance: xmodmap -e keycode 71 = KP_Up -e keycode 72 = KP_Down xmodmap -e keycode 73 = KP_Left -e keycode 73 = KP_Right

Re: RH 7.2, J2RE 1.4 and Netscape 7.1

2003-09-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:48:00PM -0400, Mario T. DeFazio wrote: [...] but they all display this error when Netscape 7.1 starts: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/java/j2re1.4.0/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji140.so

Re: Linear RAID? (was: Two partitions as one?)

2003-09-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:31:30AM +1000, Ian Mortimer wrote: They can be on the same disk. Likewise for LVM volumes. It's less efficient than a single large partition but it can save you the cost of repartitioning. Cool, thanks (also to the others who responded!)! Other (better) ways

Moving Viewport with keyboard?

2003-09-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
Hi all, I have a laptop with a resolution of 800x480. I've set the virtual resolution to 800x600. It all works just dandy, but I have one question: Is there any way to scroll around the screen without having to use the mouse? Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive:

Re: Moving Viewport with keyboard?

2003-09-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 08:45:28AM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: If you're using Gnome you could use the keyboard-mouse provided by the accessibility features: run gnome-accessibility-keyboard-properties and enable both Enable keyboard accessibility features and Enable Mouse Keys Hm...

Two partitions as one?

2003-09-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
Hi all, I have RHL running on a Toshiba Libretto laptop and I have one little problem: The Libretto needs an extra partition for hibernating. As I have a 20GB drive in there, that partition has to be around the 8.4GB border (old BIOS). Not a problem as such, but that way, the large partition I

Linear RAID? (was: Two partitions as one?)

2003-09-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 02:56:59PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: I guess what you are referring to is linear mode (see http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.2). Actually, I think LVM was what I had seen earlier - using RAID for this is new to me... :-} The

Re: RH 7.2, J2RE 1.4 and Netscape 7.1

2003-09-09 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 04:22:58PM -0400, Mario T. DeFazio wrote: Just to let everyone know, I finally found a binary package combination that works for my up2date'd Red Hat Linux 7.2 (Intel) kernel 2.4.20-20.7: - Mozilla 1.3.1 - Sun Java J2RE 1.4.0_04

Re: hosting a domain name

2003-09-05 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:00:53PM -0400, John Rehmert wrote: You might also want to look into RegisterFly (www.registerfly.com). They don't have any initial fees and they only charge $9 or so per year. I've been with them for 4+ years with no problems and I'm up to 59 domains at this point.

Re: Upgrading Mozilla.

2003-09-05 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 10:02:22AM -0400, James Moberg wrote: [...] software. I have never upgraded Mozilla on my system. Currently I am running version 0.9.9. I would like to upgrade to version 1.4 but don't know if it's stable on this version of Linux. From what I read I have to

Re: dd to clone hard drive

2003-09-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:15:30AM +0200, Willem van der Walt[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have done what you want to do although it was not win 2000. You might get an io error at the end of dd but things should work fine. It should copy the hole thing as is and it should work. Just check xxx

Re: RH 7.2, J2RE 1.4 and Netscape 7.1

2003-09-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 06:05:28PM -0400, Mario T. DeFazio wrote: [...] When I restarted Netscape, I got the following message: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so

Re: RH 7.2, J2RE 1.4 and Netscape 7.1

2003-09-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 01:51:30PM -0400, Mario T. DeFazio wrote: [...] Unfortunately, the other plugin /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so causes Netscape 7.1 to fail on startup: ws netscape7 INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?

Re: ISO Updates?

2003-09-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 02:13:06PM -0400, Nick Kishfy wrote: Well you can't really get it from the RHN (at least not with via up2date). Basically as soon as you install a RedHat distro you have to manually download and install an update just to connect to RHN. That's fairly inconvenient and

dd to clone hard drive

2003-09-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
Hi all, I'm pretty certain this has been asked before and I did find a few things on Google, but I'd like to be sure to understand it fully... I have two 20GB hard drives with the same geometry, the only difference being that one of them is a more silent version. In the end, I want to use the

Re: 50-pin SCSI Controllers

2003-08-27 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:28:28AM -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: Looking for personal recommendations on 50-pin SCSI controllers with internal connectors. This does not need to be a new-ish model or high-end, just needs to support an internal SCSI DDS-3 drive on Red Hat Linux 8.0. Pretty much

Re: Remote access full graphical interface RH9

2003-08-27 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 04:43:31PM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: I haven't yet found a free X server for windows for linux to forward to... Shouldn't Cygwin work for this as well? Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2 ==

Re: SCO and the FTC

2003-08-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 09:02:11PM -1000, Marc Adler wrote: [...] How the hell do you make your sig file change every time it gets attached to a message? Wrong question. The correct question is: Why on earth does he have a 13+ line long signature, ignoring Netiquette? SCNR, Thomas -- == RH

Re: SCO and the FTC

2003-08-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:29:43PM +1000, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 22:19, T. Ribbrock wrote: Wrong question. The correct question is: Why on earth does he have a 13+ line long signature, ignoring Netiquette? [...] Dunno. But it's better than the attached legalese spouting

Re: Sweet Success

2003-08-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:46:32AM -0700, Cliff Wells wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 00:44, T. Ribbrock wrote: I disagree. I still run Linux machines with GUI on 64MB and 48MB and the only Windows that could match the performance on those machines is Win95 and lower (even a fresh Win98

Re: OCR Software

2003-08-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:25:31AM -0400, David Hart wrote: Any suggestions for RH9? I made very good experiences with ClaraOCR: http://www.claraocr.org Admittedly, it has some stability problems at times, but it's has an excellent learning algorithm. Have a look at the FAQ on the site above

Re: Calendar / Scheduler program

2003-08-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 06:19:18PM -0400, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: What program do people use for calendar/scheduler program ? [...] I started using plan recently, and so far, I'm very happy with it. http://www.bitrot.de/plan.html Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive:

Re: Sweet Success

2003-08-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:17:34PM -0700, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] My concern is that people will advocate Linux as having a faster desktop and then when people try it (defaulting to GNOME, probably) they find this claim to seem false, they will doubt other claims made by advocates (security,

Re: Sweet Success

2003-08-21 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:41:42PM -0700, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] At one time we could boast that Linux could perform well on low-end hardware but such is no longer the case. Linux Likes RAM! As does any other OS out there. Sort of true. For a desktop, I think Linux is a bit

Re: Trying to change SCSI cards

2003-08-14 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 10:42:28PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: Content-Description: signed data I'm running RedHat 9.0 (upraded from 8.0) and I have an Advansys ABP940U I'm trying to change for an Adaptec 2940U, due to some problems I'm having with my CDRW. [...] Can someone please tell me

Re: A response from SCO

2003-08-14 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 11:34:57AM -0400, Lorenzo Prince wrote: [...] Yes, it can be clearly seen that SCO is actually using M$ windows and MS Outlook to send and receive email on tyeir workstations. Feel free to make whatever assumptions you wish based on this fact, as they are probably all

Re: USB Scanner

2003-08-14 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:14:56PM +0100, Paula Fernandes wrote: Well, thanks gh, but for the moment I just have this one :( Do you think it is possible to configure has it was other scanner, like the 3500c? They are quite similar... That question is best asked on the sane mailing list, as

Re: building RPMs from SRPMs as non-root user

2003-07-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 01:58:26PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: Another simple way to do this is to just chown -R /usr/src to the user that builds the rpm's. Works like a charm. I've done that in a slightly more refined way: - make a new group called src - chgrp -R src

Re: building RPMs from SRPMs as non-root user

2003-07-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 03:01:00PM +0200, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: [...] Then add every user that's supposed to build RPMs to src. :-) That's a nice and quite simple setup as well. Too elaborate for my user pool though ;-) . I have a user pool of, er, two. ;-) Did you never come

Re: Alternatives to KDE/Gnome?

2003-07-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:03:56PM -0700, Samuel Flory wrote: Windowmaker is not present in newer versions of RH. Which is rather annoying, but not a problem as such. Even in older versions of RH it has not been maintained in RH for a long time. The menus are 80% filled with programs

Re: motherboard change

2003-07-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 02:58:55PM -0400, Vince Scimeca wrote: I have also pulled drives from one box and put them in others using RH 7.2 with no real issues. These were vastly different boxes with different boards, processors memory etc. For me, RH detected the changes in sound and video

Re: antivirus software for redhat server

2003-07-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 02:27:03PM -0500, Stephen Smith wrote: I couldn't have said it better! Look at what the prices are for M$ software adn you don't see people running around complaining - they just go to the store and buy it! Errr - no, most of them (home users anyway) just go to the

Re: Had enough

2003-07-14 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 10:49:38AM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: On Friday 11 July 2003 03:50, T. Ribbrock wrote this in an attempt to be witty and informative: snip At work, I use Mozilla 1.4. So far, I haven't had any serious problems with any pages, short of the fact that I haven's

Re: Had enough

2003-07-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 06:28:54PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:15:56PM +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: Well, mutt works nicely with IMAP under cygwin... ;-) My wife and I have been married for just about 25 years, and if I want to live to see 26, I won't give her mutt under

Re: Had enough

2003-07-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:01:38PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: I've done a lot of work with mozilla and netscape, but unfortunately, on Windows, nothing touches IE. Too many webmasters assume IE and won't work properly with anything else. [...] At work, I use Mozilla 1.4. So far, I haven't had any

Re: Had enough

2003-07-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 12:11:40PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: I've tried a ton of Windows e-mail packages, and most really suck at imap. Eudora, surprisingly enough, is great at pop but sucks at imap. [...] Well, mutt works nicely with IMAP under cygwin... ;-) Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List

Re: Serious Threats if I use RedHat Kernel - 2.4.20-8

2003-07-10 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 12:49:25PM -0500, Sadanapalli, Pradeep Kumar (MED, TCS) wrote: I am forced to use the kernel version 2.4.20-8 which comes with default installation of RedHat 9. Whereas the latest version of the kernel for RedHat 9 is 2.4.20-18.9 . But as clearcase 5.0 only supports

Re: Upgrade to Mozilla 1.4

2003-07-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 06:05:34PM -0400, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: You are running Red Hat, so wouldn't it be more convient to get your version of Mozilla 1.4 from Red Hat (Rawhide)? I am still runing RH 7.3. I am pretty sure if I install from RawHide package I'd get all kind of

Re: Installing RH 7.3 from ISO CD

2003-07-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 08:54:16PM +0200, Go, Jeffrey wrote: I have downloaded the RH 7.3 ISO image and will be copying this to CD.. When installing, do I just boot it off CD and install? Have a look at http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/ Red Hat provides the necessary documentation

Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:12:41PM +0200, Manuel Aróstegui Ramirez wrote: I use Window Maker, for my is the best one, it is so fast, what about RAM...? for wm RAM is not a problem...;-) Right. Also, Window Maker is extremely easy to configure and there are tons of themes available for it...

Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:40:22AM +0200, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: you could use xfce. It is _realy_ fast and looks nice and modern. Modern? If it still looks like CDE (which it did when I tried it a couple of weeks ago), it looks rather outdated in my eyes... ;-) But that's a matter of personal

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 01:15:23PM -0400, Anthony E. Greene wrote: On 25-Jun-2003/11:49 -0700, Bailo, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Any OSS projects to 're-invent' the wheel? Berlin (renamed to something else?). It's now Fresco. http://www.fresco.org HTH. HAND. Thomas ;-) -- == RH

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:45:48PM -0400, Javier Gostling wrote: RHL9 on a P2/300 with 384 MB at home. Running as mail server, desktop, multiuser (there is a laptop that runs remote X sessions to the big machine), web proxy, firewall. Not blazing fast, but it gets the job done. RHL 7.3 on a

Re: FYI: M$ v. Sun Microsytems Decision

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:39:58PM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyncid=716e=5u=/ap/20030626/ap_on_bi_ge/microsoft_java Can't we just nuke them both? MS I don't care. Sun I would miss. Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List

Re: FYI: M$ v. Sun Microsytems Decision

2003-06-26 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 04:30:44PM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: T. Ribbrock wrote: Can't we just nuke them both? MS I don't care. Sun I would miss. Why would you miss Sun? There is now an open source fork of Java in the works. I don't care (much) about Java, either, but Sun has

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:09:31AM -0700, Bailo, John wrote: With all the alternatives in Linux, are there alternatives to X itself? There is one project I know of: The Berlin Consortium, which apperently started over and is now called Fresco. See: http://www.fresco.org/ It is under active

Apache on RH9 (was: what makes linux so secure?)

2003-06-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:28:59PM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote: One of the key differences between IIS and Apache is the way the web server is started. [...] On Linux, however, the web server almost always run under a non-privileged account. If Apache is penetrated, the worst the attacker can do is

Re: Which window manager I should use? Blackbox, FWM, or something else?

2003-06-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:13:42PM -0500, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: [...] My question is, which WM will do best job (and will be fastest) to do this: Desktop would just be with a graphic background (company name in the background), there would be only several icons on the desktop to

Re: Linux (not) ready for desktop? [WAS Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?]

2003-06-25 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:21:42PM +0300, Panos Platon Tsapralis wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 17:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:18:31PM +0300, Panos Platon Tsapralis wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 12:16, Peter Peltonen wrote: Instead of 50 workstations under

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 01:44:04PM -0400, Shaun T. Erickson wrote: [...] For example, Mac OS X uses X, but the Aqua Window Manger/Desktop Environment is very fast, so the whole thing is fast. Er... to the best of my knowledge, Mac OS X is *not* using X. Apple designed their own GUI setup, from

[OT] mutt on Windows (was: how do i install a c-compiler for redhat 9)

2003-06-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:03:10PM -0700, Jonathan Bartlett wrote: I could be wrong, but I thought mutt was available through cygwin. Yes, it is - I'm using it (and Cygwin) daily (only way to stand Win00). There's only one catch: The related Exchange server will have to have been set up to

[OT] Windows mailer (was: how do i install a c-compiler for redhat 9)

2003-06-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:55:46PM +0100, MKlinke wrote: [...] Your note leads me to the conclusion that you believe OE doesn't support threads, it does... *Real* threading or just threading by subject? Cheerio, Thomas -- == RH List Archive: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=redhat-listr=1w=2

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:38:10PM -0400, MWafkowski wrote: I'll try to distill my point. At this time there is no full blown GUI (functonality, eye candy, ease of use, etc.) that is not a pig on Linux. In this form, the argument is wrong. There's Window Maker, which offers all the

Re: [OT] Windows mailer

2003-06-24 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:50:58PM -0700, Lazor, Ed wrote: ? Are you talking about threading in terms of how the application divides into seperate processes? Or, are you talking about thread in the sense of the application organizing a group of common messages, based on subject? I'm talking

Re: How do I get rid of Bluecurve?

2003-06-22 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 06:35:31PM -0600, Ryan McDougall wrote: [...] Download some new themes from kdelook and try removing redhat-artwork. Otherwise Im not sure how to help. I was under the impession that RH actuakky *patched* KDE and Qt, hence, a simple themechange wouldn't fully get rid of

Re: Win98 desktop look and feel, where to get the theme?

2003-06-21 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 01:12:08PM -0400, Michael Kalus wrote: I only know in SuSE but there is a theme in KDE called Redmond which is to my knowledge the closest you get to the Windows Eperience (No BSDs included though) ;) Yeah, including a BSD would indeed be rather silly, unless you want

Re: Root can't delete some files in /bin

2003-06-21 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:38:38PM -0400, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: I am working to recover a server that's been hacked. The chkrootkit tool shows that some binary (eg 'ls', 'ps', 'top') has been changed (infected) by the hacker. [...] So, basically my question is, how do I remove those

Re: Why is RH9 slower than Windows98SE. Any advice?

2003-06-20 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 01:52:13AM -0500, Apollo (Carmel Entertainment) wrote: I am migrating my workstations to RH9 from WindowsME and 98SE. So... I intalled RH9.0 and all the workstations are so much slower, all of the stuff is so much slower. Workstations are mostly Dells with about 900Mhz

Re: Great - just another spam block...

2003-06-19 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 09:03:19PM -0400, Matthew Galgoci wrote: I've removed [EMAIL PROTECTED] because I think using such a service on a list is about the most obnoxious thing I've seen in a long time. Please send reports to the redhat-list-admin email address, I only check the list about

Re: Great - just another spam block...

2003-06-19 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 05:16:15PM -0700, Samuel Flory wrote: Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: snip One could always get an email client with spam filtering capabilities built in (like Mozilla) It just takes a while teach mozilla that all of your mailing lists aren't spam;-) The other way

Re: AOL Now Bouncing DHCP Addresses, Residential Addresses[May Be OT]

2003-06-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:47:28PM -0500, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: Bret Hughes wrote: snip It is analogous to spending 30 minutes in a security line at an airport and having to check your pocket knife because of the terrorist activity in our current environment. Bret Sorry, that's

Re: AOL Now Bouncing DHCP Addresses, Residential Addresses[May Be OT]

2003-06-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 10:02:08AM -0500, Ronald W. Heiby wrote: Wednesday, June 18, 2003, 2:10:04 AM, T. wrote: Huh? No, the question is: Why the fsck where those guys able to get on board with the BOX CUTTERS?!?! Because no one had thought of box cutters as a threat. That's exactly what

[LISTADMIN] Great - just another spam block...

2003-06-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
Just got another one of those SpamBlock: Please register to be allowed to send mail to me mails - this is just plain stupid! Running list mail via such a mail address is rude at the least, IMO. Anyway, apparently [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not want to receive any mail from this list, hence, I suggest

Re: Great - just another spam block...

2003-06-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 08:42:08AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 00:21 19 Jun 2003, T. Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] | I wonder, is there a way for the list software to recognize and | unsubscribe such folks? No, because the report goes directly to the poster. The list

Re: Linux desktop speed - Linux FUD

2003-06-12 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 06:48:34PM -0400, Ben Russo wrote: Windows XP has virtual desktops (not as fully customizable as most X-window managers, but good enough). So, after about 15-20 years, Windows has finally caught up in usability? ;-) You have to get the Microsoft XP power toy for

Re: Linux desktop speed...

2003-06-12 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 06:43:56PM -0400, Ben Russo wrote: [...] poster, X is SLOW SLOW SLOW and the GUI's are nowhere near as smooth and clean looking. The latter is clearly a matter of personal preference. To me, for example, a nicely set-up Window Maker screen is miles ahead of the

Re: A Special Request

2003-06-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 06:39:53AM -0700, Richard S. Crawford wrote: I can't think of any Linux jokes to send on to him... maybe it's just too early in the morning. Can anyone else think of any that I can send on to him? Well, maybe he could use BOFH as an inspiring source... Should be

Re: Linux desktop speed - Linux FUD

2003-06-11 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 03:18:39PM -0400, AragonX wrote: [...] Now here is where we see eye to eye. Somewhat... X has been disappointing to me. I still have to use Windows because I can't get my games on X. [...] Well, it all depends on what you're doing with your machine(s). In my eyes,

Re: Reading MS Mail attachments

2003-06-07 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 07:54:08AM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Is there a Unix utility that understands how to unpack MS-TNEF mail attachments? There is and I have used it in the past, but I can't remember its name - apparently, I've deleted it during the last upgrade... Have you tried

Re: What distribution works well with old computers?

2003-06-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:42:12PM -0500, Paul Sutcliffe wrote: What distribution works well with old computers? like a pentiumMMX 233MHz I have RH 7.3 running on my Toshiba Libretto (P166MMX, 64MB) as well as on a HP all-on-board machine (P233MMX, 48MB). Both work amazingly well, even with X

Re: pls do NOT abuse the list

2003-05-29 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 06:24:09AM -0700, Richard S. Crawford wrote: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html GREAT link, thanks! If my sig wasn't already four lines, I'd add it as well... That link should be displayed at a very prominent place in the new FAQ some folks are working on

Re: New Kernel and PCMCIA [WORKAROUND]

2003-05-27 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 12:31:08PM -0700, Patrick Nelson wrote: I copied the following directory from /lib/modules/2.4.18-27.7.x/pcmcia to /lib/modules/2.4.20-13.7/pcmcia Have a look at Bugzilla - this has already been filed several times and apparently, there are also workarounds

Re: pls do NOT abuse the list (was Re: xinetd)

2003-05-27 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 07:50:02AM +0800, Redhat71 wrote: Nguyen, David M wrote: My machine does not have xinetd installed. Where can I get a download and how to install it? Thanks, David Do a google on 'xinetd' suggesting others to use google is a good thing itself, but on

Re: up2date

2003-04-05 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:04:54PM -0600, Ed Wilts wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:56:50PM -0500, fred smith wrote: I've been trying since Monday to get into up2date and get nothing but Demo service currently disabled due to high load. I've even written a shellscript that retries every 10

Re: up2date

2003-04-05 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 10:32:29PM +0800, Redhat71 wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:04:54PM -0600, Ed Wilts wrote: [...] Please get your attributions right, the part below was written by me... Just to clarify it (I've never used up2date): You *do* need a RHN subscription for up2date,

Re: GCC and Redhat 8.0

2003-04-03 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 01:15:01PM -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: [...] If you must have 2.95.3 (or any version of the compiler that doesn't come as an RPM *designed to live peacefully with the stock comiler*), the best strategy is to grab the tarballs from gcc.gnu.org and install them in

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 12:37:53AM -0700, Ryan McDougall wrote: Please provide to me the source of your assertion that there will be no more point releases, because I have seen no such statement by Redhat. They're not saying it with so many words, but this makes me wary: quote In the past, Red

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 08:44:17AM -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] It isn't clear to me how RedHat releasing newer versions of software faster is going to make much difference. RedHat doesn't write 99% of the software in RH Linux. What's the difference between the user installing the latest

Re: Download Redhat 9 right now

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:02:31AM -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] explicitly allows for GPL'd software to be sold. But free speech definitely implies that it can't be bootlegged, even if it is sold otherwise. [...] Point well taken. Of course you're right. However, my main concern is that

Re: Stop the disinformation! (Was Re: Download Redhat 9 right now)

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:15:59AM -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: [...] Yes, wxPython! ;-) But then they'd get into the same quandry they've gotten into with Python. They insist on naming it 'python' and then resting a bunch of dependencies on top of the version number, which makes it difficult

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 04:24:55PM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 08:08:13PM +0200, T. Ribbrock wrote: [...] good releases, some even excellent at the time). The fact that RH is keeping quiet about their intentions in this regard doesn't help, either - and it certainly

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:26:27AM -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: The things you see in the RH kernel are typically backports of features from the development kernel. Yes, it does make the RH kernel different, but not terribly special. Obviously, RH has developers (Alan Cox comes to mind), but

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-02 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 04:13:35PM -0800, Cliff Wells wrote: On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 15:15, T. Ribbrock wrote: [...] As I said, basically all SRPMs from RH I've seen so far contain RH-patches. Those patches need to be developped, tested and maintained. That's more than just packaging. Sure

Re: Redhat 9 not 9.0 ?

2003-04-01 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 07:31:27PM +0200, Eduardo Silva wrote: From what I have been able to pick up from previuos discussions, it seems RH is going to split it's product line into two main lines (please tell me if my understanding is wrong): * RH for home/student/entusiast users, which

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