Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-30 Thread Jonathan Thomas
Hello all, On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Scott Kitterman k...@kitterman.com wrote: Why cancel instead of just telling people the need to update to soprano from git? Scott K I think that most of the discussion here is based off of a miscommunication caused by the title of this thread.

Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Albert Astals Cid
Since we don't have a soprano release we can depend off I'm officially cancelling the tarballs of Beta1 since it makes no sense to release something that can't be compiled. If the soprano people make a release I'll re-create the packages and we'll speak for dates for a new release. Sorry for

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote: Since we don't have a soprano release we can depend off I'm officially cancelling the tarballs of Beta1 since it makes no sense to release something that can't be compiled. Uh, we've already started importing the beta into Fedora Rawhide (using

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 19:15:08, Kevin Kofler va escriure: On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote: Since we don't have a soprano release we can depend off I'm officially cancelling the tarballs of Beta1 since it makes no sense to release something that can't be

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote: Blame the soprano developers and the nepomuk developers for not respecting the dependency freeze. Oh by the way, this is not the first time a prerelease of the KDE SC depends on a git snapshot of Soprano, either (sadly). So it's not so big a

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 19:31:37, Kevin Kofler va escriure: On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote: Blame the soprano developers and the nepomuk developers for not respecting the dependency freeze. Oh by the way, this is not the first time a prerelease of the KDE SC

Re: Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 19:31:37, Kevin Kofler va escriure: On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote: Blame the soprano developers and the nepomuk developers for not respecting the dependency freeze. Oh by the way, this is not the first time a prerelease of

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 13:45:34, Scott Kitterman va escriure: Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 19:31:37, Kevin Kofler va escriure: On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote: Blame the soprano developers and the nepomuk

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 19:55:02 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Please do not confuse team work with democracy. I like team work, I do take suggestions, but at the end each person in a team has a given role and a given attributions for that role, the release dude does the releases. +1 And as

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 20:19:51 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: so we need a soprano release. i'll try and push people to get this done. it's one tag / tarball, it can't be a big deal. ok, just talked with one of the devs. apparently Trueg is MIA while moving house at the moment, but it is releasable

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Manuel Tortosa
El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 20:45:14, Aaron J. Seigo va escriure: ok, just talked with one of the devs. apparently Trueg is MIA while moving house at the moment, but it is releasable and there are even release notes for a 2.8 version. we'll (myself an vhanda) make a release

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 20:49:05 Manuel Tortosa wrote: El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 20:45:14, Aaron J. Seigo va escriure: ok, just talked with one of the devs. apparently Trueg is MIA while moving house at the moment, but it is releasable and there are even release notes for a

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 19:31:37, Kevin Kofler va escriure: On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote: Blame the soprano developers and the nepomuk developers for not respecting the dependency freeze. Oh by the way, this is not

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Scott Kitterman wrote: I'm not. You've known about this since Saturday. AFAIK didn't consult packagers on impacts. Made a late announcement (if you were going to do this, waiting three days did't help). Then you give a very pointed response to anyone who questions

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Dienstag, 29. Mai 2012, 22:35:23 schrieb Kevin Kofler: On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Scott Kitterman wrote: I'm not. You've known about this since Saturday. AFAIK didn't consult packagers on impacts. Made a late announcement (if you were going to do this, waiting three days did't help).

Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Tom Albers
Hi, For those distro's that already uploaded packages to their repo's, I suggest that you add a patch that removes the 'beta 1' designation and just continue to upload it as a trunk snapshot if you can not stop it anymore. I assume you have only uploaded it to an unstable part of the repo.

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 15:10:18, Scott Kitterman va escriure: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 07:55:02 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 13:45:34, Scott Kitterman va escriure: Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 22:35:23, Kevin Kofler va escriure: On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Scott Kitterman wrote: I'm not. You've known about this since Saturday. AFAIK didn't consult packagers on impacts. Made a late announcement (if you were going to do this, waiting three days

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 23:08:50, Adrian Schröter va escriure: Am Dienstag, 29. Mai 2012, 22:35:23 schrieb Kevin Kofler: On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Scott Kitterman wrote: I'm not. You've known about this since Saturday. AFAIK didn't consult packagers on impacts. Made a late

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Allen Winter
On Tuesday 29 May 2012 5:11:20 PM Tom Albers wrote: Hi, For those distro's that already uploaded packages to their repo's, I suggest that you add a patch that removes the 'beta 1' designation and just continue to upload it as a trunk snapshot if you can not stop it anymore. I assume you

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 19:55:02 Albert Astals Cid wrote: the release dude does the releases. Correction: The release *team* does the releases Now that is clear, can we work as a team here, and discuss problems instead of making such decisions unilaterally? -- sebas http://www.kde.org |

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 23:29:18, Sebastian Kügler va escriure: On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 19:55:02 Albert Astals Cid wrote: the release dude does the releases. Correction: The release *team* does the releases Now that is clear, can we work as a team here, and discuss

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 23:53:50 Albert Astals Cid wrote: I'm sorry for being naïve and expecting people would care about having a proper release. It won't happen again. Noe this It won't happen again doesn't mean I'm walking off from the create tarballs duty, it just means that