RE: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County

2005-04-16 Thread Newsom Michael
unconstitutional.) -Original Message- From: West, Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 6:03 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County Aren't these kinds of prayers routinely

Re: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County

2005-04-15 Thread Marty Lederman
I think this might be a very important case -- or, at the least, an omen ofthings to come, in a range of cases involving charitable choice, school vouchers, etc. Indeed, it's the classic "Wiccan" hypo -- that many of us have been invoking, and wondering about, in various discussions of

RE: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County

2005-04-15 Thread Joel Sogol
, April 15, 2005 7:47 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County I think this might be a very important case -- or, at the least, an omen ofthings to come, in a range of cases involving charitable choice, school

RE: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County

2005-04-15 Thread Kim Colby
much less defensible). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty LedermanSent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:14 AMTo: Law Religion issues for Law AcademicsSubject: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County My positions in the two cases are not in

Re: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County

2005-04-15 Thread A.E. Brownstein
I agree that this is an indefensible decision. (I would probably have described it as shameful, but indefensible will do.) But it does illustrate the problem with the argument that government may display religious symbols and sponsor religious activities such as prayer as long as it does so in a

RE: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County

2005-04-15 Thread West, Ellis
Title: Message Although I object (for religious reasons) to public prayers, such as those before meetings of the Chesterfield County Board of Supervisors, aren't those of you who consider the Fourth Circuit's decision to be indefensible or worse overlooking the distinctive nature of this

RE: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County

2005-04-15 Thread David Cruz
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, West, Ellis wrote: [snip] If, however, the reason for these prayers is because the members of the Board truly want divine guidance or blessing from the deity in which they believe, the God of the Judeo-Christian faith, [snip] Does that count as a *secular* purpose?? I

RE: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County

2005-04-15 Thread Newsom Michael
: West, Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:50 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Discrimination Against Wiccans; Simpson v. Chesterfield County Although I object (for religious reasons) to public prayers, such as those before meetings