RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement

2011-01-04 Thread Steven Jamar
It seems there are a number of discrete issues involved. 1. Can an arbitration agreement require that sharia be applied under a choice of law provision -- it would seem so to me. Some seem to see entanglement. 2. Can an arbitration agreement require that arbitrators be knowledgeable about

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Nathan Oman
It seems difficult to find an equal protection violation if the Court is merely enforcing the contract. It seems to me that a more likely constitutional objection would be that the contract cannot be enforced without running afoul of the neutral principles doctrine. Can a court make a decision

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Oman Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:28 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? It seems difficult to find an equal protection violation if the Court

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Eric Rassbach
Of Volokh, Eugene [vol...@law.ucla.edu] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 11:46 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? I agree with Nate’s neutral principles / entanglement

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread verizon
I use a contract clause to arbitrate using a Christian arbitration service. The clause spells out the service much like one would specify AAA to arbitrate. The clause does not give requirements for the arbitrators, just what organization will arbitrate. The reasoning is that the Bible tells

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Douglas Laycock
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Oman Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:28 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? It seems difficult to find an equal protection

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread SAMUEL M. KRIEGER
of judgments. SAMUEL M. KRIEGER -Original Message- From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of verizon Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 2:00 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: May American court appoint only Muslim

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Marc Stern
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Douglas Laycock Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 02:33 To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics; Eric Rassbach Subject: Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators,pursuant to an arbitration agreement? The court could apparently

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Steven Jamar
Eugene, do you contend that knowledge of the Sharia is not a valid limitation or only that being a Muslim is not? On Jan 3, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Douglas Laycock wrote: must know the Shari'a, commercial laws and the customs in force in the Kingdom -- Prof. Steven D. Jamar

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Steven Jamar
I suspect that the contract also specifies that it is to be interpreted and applied and enforced according to Sharia law of the Wahabi school and Saudi Arabian law where the Sharia is not determinative. While I am far more familiar with much of sharia law than most American lawyers and

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Steve Sanders
: Monday, January 03, 2011 02:33 To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics; Eric Rassbach Subject: Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators,pursuant to an arbitration agreement? The court could apparently comply with the contract, and avoid all entanglement iwth religion, by appointing

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Douglas Laycock Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 02:33 To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics; Eric Rassbach Subject: Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators,pursuant to an arbitration agreement? The court could apparently comply with the contract

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? Eugene, do you contend that knowledge of the Sharia is not a valid limitation or only that being a Muslim is not? On Jan 3, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Douglas Laycock wrote: must know the Shari'a, commercial laws and the customs in force

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Steve Sanders
...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Douglas Laycock Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 02:33 To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics; Eric Rassbach Subject: Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators,pursuant to an arbitration agreement? The court

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
: Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? Is someone applying for a military chaplaincy required or expected to have some religious qualification or membership in a religious order? Could a nonbeliever who nonetheless has an extensive

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Eric Rassbach
, 2011 4:19 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? My view is that being a Muslim is not a limitation on being an arbitrator that a court may properly enforce

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Nathan Oman
...@lists.ucla.edu] *On Behalf Of *Steven Jamar *Sent:* Monday, January 03, 2011 12:38 PM *To:* Law Religion issues for Law Academics *Subject:* Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? Eugene, do you contend that knowledge of the Sharia

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? What is the entanglement problem in Eugene's view if the Court is not being asked to decide a religious question? If ARAMCO objected to the appointment

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Eugene, In your mind does the constitutional difficulty arise from the court choosing a Muslim arbitrator under the contract or from the enforcement of a contract involving religious terms? The former; I don't see any inherent problem in enforcing the results of a religious

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Steve Sanders
PM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? I recognize this isn't an employment discrimination case, but is the constitutional problem eased if the religion of the arbitrators could be considered

Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Nathan Oman
I’m no great fan of the more expansive readings of Shelly. But when a government actor is deciding who gets a particular (lucrative) position based on that person’s religion, it seems to me that state action is eminently present, or more specifically that the government actor is

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? Is someone applying for a military chaplaincy required or expected to have some religious qualification or membership in a religious order? Could

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I wrote: I'm no great fan of the more expansive readings of Shelly. But when a government actor is deciding who gets a particular (lucrative) position based on that person's religion, it seems to me that state action is eminently present, or more specifically that the

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Scarberry, Mark
It is helpful to remember that in the actual case the contract (at least according to the Texas Ct. of Appeals) did not call the for a court to appoint the arbitrator(s). As Steve Sanders pointed out, a properly drafted contract would avoid the problem we are discussing by providing for private

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Brownstein, Alan
From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 2:29 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Eric Rassbach
-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene [vol...@law.ucla.edu] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:04 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement? I think

RE: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators, pursuant to an arbitration agreement?

2011-01-03 Thread Friedman, Howard M.
on behalf of Steve Sanders Sent: Mon 1/3/2011 6:27 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Cc: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: May American court appoint only Muslim arbitrators,pursuant to an arbitration agreement? Is someone applying for a military chaplaincy