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Festivus pole proposed at Green Bay City Hall
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I'd vote for him. I defer to the wisdom of others here on the
Constitutional question.
I guess we've entered the silly season.
Susan
Will Linden wrote:
Since people are worrying about the right having the nerve to extol
their own religion(s), I note that I got no reactions to this one
I think Green Bay has hit upon the ideal solution to the annual battles over
nativity scenes on public property. I think the court can fix the problem by
declaring two things:
1. the government cannot fund such displays.
2. if a private group is allowed to put up a display for their religious
Suppose a group wants to put up a display that's not associated with any
religion or anti-religion? Advertising, for example?
Susan
Ed Brayton wrote:
I think Green Bay has hit upon the ideal solution to the annual battles over
nativity scenes on public property. I think the court can fix the
Then the answer is no as it does not fit the purpose of this limited public
forum.
Ed Brayton
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Any thoughts on the story? My sense is that this would be permissible
if the room were open to all student groups (or at least all student
groups that are religious or antireligious), even if it turned out that
other groups had no inclination to use it. But I'd love to hear what
others think.
Doesn't such a limitation constitute favoring religion over non-religion?
Ed Brayton wrote:
Then the answer is no as it does not fit the purpose of this limited public
forum.
Ed Brayton
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SHALL WE HIRE A MONUMENT ENGRAVER TO GO TO ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY AND ADD
THE MISSING WORDS ?
A MESSAGE FROM AN APPALLED OBSERVER:
Today I went to visit the new World War
II Memorial in Washington , DC I got an unexpected history lesson Because I'm a
baby boomer, I was one of the
It seems to fit uneasily into the Lamb's Chapel trilogy and hard to reconcile
with either Lemon neutrality or notions of nonendorsement.
Maybe it's an tougher case if the Islamic literature is not permitted in the
room when Muslim students are not using it (or, perhaps, if other literature is
Most quotes on most memorials I see are edited in some fashion or
other -- if nothing else then by selection of what to include or not
include, where to start and where to end, and so on. I think the
exception is the Lincoln Memorial with the full Gettysburg Address
and full 2d Inaugural
This is apparently a myth. See
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/memorial.asp; among other
things, it includes what appears to be a photo of the inscription, which
actually quotes a different line from the speech -- a line that's not
followed by so help us God.
Eugene
One of the seemingly infinite number of circulated emails full of feigned
outrage and false claims on this issue that litter our inboxes. This list is
the last place I would have thought I'd see one forwarded.
Ed Brayton
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The (private) college my son attended erected a meditation room in lieu of a
chapel, but it was completely bare of permanent fixtures, other than
carpeting (a good idea if you want to go barefoot in northern Ohio). Any
furniture or other props had to be moved in and out for any particular
worship
Agreed, Ed. Indeed, that is why I didn't even check as I usually would!
On Dec 17, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Ed Brayton wrote:
One of the seemingly infinite number of circulated emails full of
feigned outrage and false claims on this issue that litter our
inboxes. This list is the last place I
I have heard (hearsay) someone say that FDR gave two speeches that
day one with so help us God. and one without. The one with So help
us God.' being the one broadcast and the one we hear every December
7. Was there other one to Congress?
Alan Armstrong
On Dec 17, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Gibbens,
I have noticed that this type of Email frequently ends with something like...
If you agree, pass this on. If not,
May God Bless YOU!
Or
If you agree, pass this on. If not,
then delete!
To me, this is the most infuriating portion of the statement. What message does
The BBC hired a guy to read some of Churchill's speeches, but to the best of my
knowledge, if you've got audio of Roosevelt, it's live. By 1941, he lacked a
lot of the vigor he had eight years earlier. Doing speeches twice is unlikely.
From the FDR Library, here is audio of the speech (it's
Would a resolution for Secular Humanism violate the Constitution? No
need to answer - I've been reading Daniel Conkle's book, and not only am
I enjoying it, I'm learning that this question cannot have a simple answer.
S
Richard Dougherty wrote:
Well, maybe you will; see below. Congress does
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