RE: The clergy-penitent privilege and burdens on third parties

2013-12-06 Thread Paul Horwitz
I don't have much of a dog in this fight, but let me add three things: 1) I appreciate Marci's response. It's clear the privilege has indeed been interpreted in a confined manner in many jurisdictions, even where the statute itself is fairly broad. Too confined, perhaps, in my view. But I

RE: The clergy-penitent privilege and burdens on third parties

2013-12-06 Thread Christopher Lund
Again, I’m late—sorry about that. But honestly people, it’s shocking how many posts are written between the hours of 9 p.m. and 7 a.m. Who can keep up? So this may backtrack, but I’ve been thinking about the earlier posts in this thread. Say there are no secular analogies to the

Hobby Lobby/Conestoga Wood scheduling

2013-12-06 Thread Marty Lederman
The Court did not realign any of the parties (somewhat to my surprise), but consolidated amici briefing. Therefore: -- SG brief in HL, and CW brief in CW, are due Friday, Jan. 10 *-- All amici, supporting any side, due Tuesday, Jan. 28* [shades of green on color of briefs TBD, perhaps sometime

Re: The clergy-penitent privilege and burdens on third parties

2013-12-06 Thread hamilton02
With all due respect to this entire thread, how many people have actually read the state cases involving the priest-penitent privilege? There is a level of abstraction to this discussion that indicates to me probably not. As someone who has actively been involved in arguing the issue in

Re: The clergy-penitent privilege and burdens on third parties

2013-12-06 Thread Richard Dougherty
I will confess to not having read the state cases, or at least not most of them. But isn't the question *whether* the privilege is constitutionally required? (Perhaps the fact that it is referred to as a privilege muddies the waters.) If free exercise of religion includes receiving a sacrament,

RE: The clergy-penitent privilege and burdens on third parties

2013-12-06 Thread Levinson, Sanford V
As I've said earlier, I'm sympathetic to Richard's argument inasmuch as confession is in fact part of a complex (required) sacramental process. But the point is that (I think) that's relatively unusual, certainly not present, so far as I am aware, in Judaism, for example. Am I correct in