Go to Church or Go to Jail

2012-11-22 Thread Douglas Laycock
The Times has picked up the story. Third parties trying to generate standing by filing a disciplinary complaint against the judge. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/us/oklahoma-judges-sentencing-of-youth-to-church-stirs-criticism.html?ref=us Douglas Laycock Robert E. Scott Distinguished

Go to church or go to jail

2012-11-20 Thread Douglas Laycock
http://www.jdjournal.com/2012/11/19/teen-convicted-of-manslaughter-sentenced -to-probation-and-church/ Unconstitutional, but the only person with standing to complain isn't complaining. And it may be that few defendants offered this deal would complain. Refusing, getting sent to prison, and

Re: Go to church or go to jail

2012-11-20 Thread Arthur Spitzer
Donn Baker, the attorney for Alred, said, 'My client goes to church every Sunday. That isn’t going to be a problem for him.'” I suppose sentencing a person who likes broccoli to eat broccoli falls under the heading of harmless error. But if he decides to stop going to church at some point in the

Go to Church or Go to Jail?

2011-09-26 Thread James Edward Maule
That's what it appears to be (sorry for cross-posting but this should be useful to subscribers on both lists looking for an exam question, to say nothing of the expected discussion). http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/26/jesus-or-jail-alabama-town-offers-options-for-serving-time/?hpt=hp_t2

Re: Go to Church or Go to Jail?

2011-09-26 Thread Douglas Laycock
Much milder versions of this, such as go to jail or go to AA, have been litigated and held unconstitutional. This plan will have a short life. On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:37:51 -0400 James Edward Maule ma...@law.villanova.edu wrote: That's what it appears to be (sorry for cross-posting but this

Re: Go to Church or Go to Jail?

2011-09-26 Thread Paul Finkelman
...@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 5:37 PM Subject: Go to Church or Go to Jail? That’s what it appears to be (sorry for cross-posting but this should be useful to subscribers on both lists looking for an exam question, to say nothing of the expected discussion).   http

RE: Go to Church or Go to Jail?

2011-09-26 Thread Eric Rassbach
:06 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics; James Edward Maule; conlawp...@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Go to Church or Go to Jail? Much milder versions of this, such as go to jail or go to AA, have been litigated and held unconstitutional. This plan will have a short life. On Mon, 26 Sep

RE: Go to Church or Go to Jail?

2011-09-26 Thread Finkelman, Paul paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu
: Go to Church or Go to Jail? That’s what it appears to be (sorry for cross-posting but this should be useful to subscribers on both lists looking for an exam question, to say nothing of the expected discussion). http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/26/jesus-or-jail-alabama-town-offers-options

RE: Go to Church or Go to Jail?

2011-09-26 Thread Steve Sanders
...@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Go to Church or Go to Jail? First, this is hilarious. Second, it reminds me of my cousin, who is a principal at a public high school in Kentucky. When we were visiting several years ago, he left dinner early to draft the school prayer to be read over the PA

Re: Go to Church or Go to Jail?

2011-09-26 Thread Marc Stern
issues for Law Academics' religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu; conlawp...@lists.ucla.edu conlawp...@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Go to Church or Go to Jail? I suspect the response from the Alabama legislators would actually be more truculent! From: religionlaw-boun

RE: Go to Church or Go to Jail?

2011-09-26 Thread Finkelman, Paul paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu
or Go to Jail? Being forced to pray to someone or something one doesn't believe in seems cruel and unusual punishment in violation of Amend-8, quite apart from what it does to Amend-1. As a (former) young prosecutor who observed a judge offer a defendant the choice of either jail or enlisting