Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread Steven Jamar
Eugene pointed out that I was being a bit loose with my characterization of Reagan's proclamation -- the actual proclamation was for the Year of the Bible with statements about the Bible being a foundation of our Constitution and such.  It is, naturally, carefully worded with the most potentially

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread Ed Darrell
eligionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion. Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:39:35 -0800 (PST)Here is the ! text of the resolution:SECOND REGULAR SESSION House Concurrent Resolution No. 13 93RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY 4572L.02I http://www.house.state.mo.us/bill

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread RJLipkin
In a message dated 3/3/2006 9:16:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I don't see christianity becoming a minority religion in the US any time in my lifetime or my grandchildren's. My point was both a descriptive (predictive) point and an analytic one. Steve

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread Rick Duncan
I read the text of the Mo resolution, and what I read there between the linesis notso much thedesire to make Christianity the national religion, but rather frustration caused by judicialdecisions that appear to have cleansed religion from the public culture.For people who are not as

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread Ed Darrell
Alas, lack of understanding won't increase if such changes occur. Would it not be better to achieve a workable level of understanding rather than vitiate the laws that protect the freedoms we have?Is there no one who will step up to the podium and tell what the rights really are? And, by

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread Vance R. Koven
Don't know about Dallas, but they certainly do in Boston, especially around the time of the gay pride parade. Vance On 3/4/06, Ed Darrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alas, lack of understanding won't increase if such changes occur. Would it not be better to achieve a workable level of

Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Jean Dudley
Via Eschaton: Missouri legislators in Jefferson City considered a bill that would name Christianity the state's official majority religion. House Concurrent Resolution 13 has is pending in the state legislature. Many Missouri residents had not heard about the bill until Thursday. Karen

RE: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Is it that Missouri declares Christianity its official religion, or just that some legislators have proposed such a resolution? (Either are worth condemning, I think, but it's important to have a sense of what exactly is happening.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Winston Calvert
, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it that Missouri declares Christianity its official religion, or just that some legislators have proposed such a resolution? (Either are worth condemning, I think, but it's important to have a sense of what exactly is happening.) -Original

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Brad M Pardee
*soapbox mode on*I read stories like this, and I say to myself that it's no wonder so many people think conservative Christians are intolerant idiots. Doesn't this guy understand that stupid things like this accomplish nothing other than leaving a mess for others to clean up? *soapbox mode off*

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Lawyer2974
Not that I agree with the resolution, but it does not say half of the things attributed to it in the summary circulated by Jean...we all need to be much more precise Donald C. Clark, Jr.Counselor at LawBannockburn Lake Office Plaza I2333 Waukegan RoadSuite 160Bannockburn, Illinois

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Jean Dudley
: Is it that Missouri declares Christianity its official religion, or just that some legislators have proposed such a resolution? (Either are worth condemning, I think, but it's important to have a sense of what exactly is happening.) Jean Dudley http://jeansvoice.blogspot.com Future Law Student

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Jean Dudley
Agreed, Donald. I was in the process of googling for the actual wording of the resolution when Winston got there first. On Mar 3, 2006, at 11:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I agree with the resolution, but it does not say half of the things attributed to it in the summary

RE: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Pybas, Kevin M
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winston Calvert Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:40 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion. Here is the text of the resolution: SECOND REGULAR SESSION House Concurrent Resolution No. 13

Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Perry Dane
A not-very-analytic observation on a Friday afternoon: I happened to read these posts on the Missouri resolution at about the same time as I was taking a look at a remarkable document called the Flushing Remonstrance, written in 1657, in which the leaders and citizens of Town of

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Nathan Oman
I wonder how many of them would have the courage of their convictions if that were the likely outcome of their little legal-literary exercise. I suspect that large numbers of them -- or of their fellow travelers -- would be willing to suffer legal sanctions for their opinions. I think that

RE: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Paul Horwitz
Subject: RE: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion. Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:39:35 -0800 (PST) Here is the text of the resolution: SECOND REGULAR SESSION House Concurrent Resolution No. 13 93RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY 4572L.02I http://www.house.state.mo.us/bills061/bills/hcr13.htm Whereas

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Steven Jamar
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Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Ed Darrell
Christianity its official religion. Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:39:35 -0800 (PST)Here is the text of the resolution:SECOND REGULAR SESSION House Concurrent Resolution No. 13 93RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY 4572L.02I http://www.house.state.mo.us/bills061/bills/hcr13.htmWhereas, our forefathers

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread RJLipkin
I have a fairly straightforward question or set of questions: What does it mean to say that the United States is a Christian country or that Christianity is, in the United States, the "official" religion? Is this a descriptive claim? More Christians than members of other religions? A

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Steven Jamar
Well, I don't see christianity becoming a minority religion in the US any time in my lifetime or my grandchildren's.  Unless, of course, one excludes Spanish-speaking Catholics from being Christians.On Mar 3, 2006, at 8:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a fairly straightforward

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Paul Finkelman
s.ucla.edu To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion. Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:39:35 -0800 (PST) Here is the text of the