RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Douglas Laycock
became his view in Smith.     Eugene         From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Laycock         Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:24 PM         To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu         Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Ira (Chip) Lupu
century Anglican chapel, and such chapels would not have included a cross. So the cross in that chapel is, as we say in the piece, glaringly anachronistic. Original message Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:56:24 -0500 From: Douglas Laycock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive

A Theory RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Douglas Laycock
Maybe Scalia thought the law in Kiryas Joel was facially neutral, and that the law in Lukumi was facially discriminatory.  His Kiryas Joel comments begin with In order to invalidate a facially neutral law . . .  Then in Kiryas Joel, he might have been importing the equal protection rule, from

RE: A Theory RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Brownstein, Alan
. Alan Brownstein From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Laycock Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:43 AM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: A Theory RE: Scalia and Motive Maybe Scalia thought the law in Kiryas Joel was facially neutral, and that the law

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Douglas Laycock
Scalia would say about the default placement of that cross on the altar table in the chapel at Willima Mary? Original message Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:21:31 -0800 From: Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Volokh, Eugene
) Lupu Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:29 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive So what do you expect Scalia would say about the default placement of that cross on the altar table in the chapel at Willima Mary? Original message Date

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Chip Lupu writes: I think we have to go back to Prof. Finkelman's realist question: Justice Scalia has (both before and after Smith) voted to uphold Free Exercise claims (Frazee, Lukumi, Locke v. Davey), but I don't believe he has EVER voted against the government in an Establishment

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Scarberry, Mark
(Chip) Lupu Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:29 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive So what do you expect Scalia would say about the default placement of that cross on the altar table in the chapel at Willima Mary? Original message Date

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Ira (Chip) Lupu
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Not having read your article, I can't say much on the subject. For everyone on the Court (except Justice Thomas) context -- especially the historical meaning -- seems to matter

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Ira (Chip) Lupu
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ira (Chip) Lupu Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:29 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive So what do you expect Scalia would say about the default placement of that cross on the altar

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-18 Thread David Cruz
Maybe his Kiryas Joel dissent accepts current EC doctrine arguendo, though his preferred view (as revealed in his Lukumi and Edwards v. Aguillard opinions) would render legislative motivation irrelevant in cases of facially neutral laws? David B. Cruz Professor of Law University of Southern

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-18 Thread Ed Brayton
The very first line of his dissent in Edwards, as Douglas alludes to, seems to deny the validity of considering motive: Even if I agreed with the questionable premise that legislation can be invalidated under the Establishment Clause on the basis of its motivation alone, without regard to its

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-18 Thread Douglas Laycock
rights language in Smith as well. Alan Brownstein From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of David Cruz Sent: Mon 2/18/2008 6:37 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive Maybe his Kiryas Joel dissent accepts current EC doctrine

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-18 Thread Paul Finkelman
was inconsistent with the hybrid rights language in Smith as well. Alan Brownstein From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of David Cruz Sent: Mon 2/18/2008 6:37 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive Maybe his Kiryas Joel

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-18 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Laycock Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:24 PM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive I certainly agree that Smith is inconsistent with his Texas