UC Case: Facts from Complaint

2005-09-06 Thread Rick Duncan
If you haven't read the complaint in the Association of Christian Schools v. UC case, I encourage you to do so. Although UC denied approval to courses concerning "Christianity's Influence on American History" and "Christianity and Morality in American Literature" as being too narrow and not

Re: UC Case: Facts from Complaint

2005-09-06 Thread Paul Finkelman
Dear Rick: I would assume that UC has equivalent courses such as History of Christianity; Renaissance/Reformation and a number of early modern European courses and late antiquity courses that deal almost entirely with the Church and Church history. There are probably courses on the Bible

Re: UC Case: Facts from Complaint

2005-09-06 Thread Rick Duncan
I am sure Paul would love to teach the course on Christianity hedescribes below. I am sure it would be very interesting. And if he taught it in a California high school, UC might well have approved it. Indeed, it seems that it was the viewpoint of the course, not its subject matter, that was the

Re: UC Case: Facts from Complaint

2005-09-06 Thread Francis Beckwith
You can conclude the course with the lecture, Why the moral relativism embraced by secularism can't adequately account for the wrongness of the acts I just condemned. Time for Eugene to spank us. Frank On 9/6/05 1:24 PM, Paul Finkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The KKK (and the use of the

Re: UC Case: Facts from Complaint

2005-09-06 Thread Paul Finkelman
My point Rick,is that the course Influence of Christianity in US History would need to be a serious course, that looked at issues with some skepticism and not merely propaganda; if my coursre were set out as I did, without other things, it would hardly work as a serious course. In the US we

RE: UC Case: Facts from Complaint

2005-09-06 Thread Volokh, Eugene
issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: UC Case: Facts from Complaint Francis Beckwith wrote: You can conclude the course with the lecture, Why the moral relativism embraced by secularism can't adequately account for the wrongness of the acts I just condemned. Time for Eugene to spank

Re: UC Case: Facts from Complaint

2005-09-06 Thread Francis Beckwith
Title: Re: UC Case: Facts from Complaint Bobby, I dont disagree with you. All I was saying is that secular relativism cannot account for the wrongs. I did not say that secularism is relativistic per se. What I was thinking of was the stuff written by Stephen Gey in which he says

Re: UC Case: Facts from Complaint

2005-09-06 Thread Will Linden
At 02:11 PM 9/6/05 -0500, you wrote: My point Rick,is that the course Influence of Christianity in US History would need to be a serious course, that looked at issues with some skepticism and not merely propaganda; if my coursre were set out as I did, without other things, it would hardly