Re: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?

2004-12-05 Thread James
Many of the tones that tha Com-Spec TS64 series borads will do are non-standard tones (per EIA). Has anyone used any of these?? especially the low ones like 33 Hz?? James kc0rtx wrote: 254.1 - 0Z - NON EIA STANDARD TONES Randy KC0RTX - Original Message

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Inverting COS

2004-12-05 Thread Tony lelieveld
Hi Wade, Nice drawings. I would suggest a 47K resistor from the transistor base to ground. I have had several occasions where the input to the base floated (neither pulled high or to ground) and it caused the transistor to operate erratically. 73, Tony VE3DWI Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Requiring CTCSS, etc.

2004-12-05 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, Al Wolfe wrote: normal tone. With this system any transient could access any PL100 compliant system by transmitting the universal tone of 100 htz. A distinctive tail message or other mechanism could be used to discourage common usage of the PL100 system but still allow

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater 'noise' problem

2004-12-05 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Make sure all the coax jumpers are OK. They should be good RG-214 and DEFINATELY not 9913. If you find any 9913 jumpers replace them with Rg-214. -- Original Message -- Received: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 04:36:49 PM CST From: Rick Stoneking [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater 'noise' problem

2004-12-05 Thread Mathew Quaife
Gee now this sounds like a DITTO. Had the exact same problems today with the repeater here in Indiana. Most of mine was due to a piece off 9913 that was in line, and yes I know it was not suppose to be there, temporary situation. Anyways, replaced that with hardline and took care of most

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tone trivia..?

2004-12-05 Thread Al Wolfe
In broadcasting, 25 hertz is commonly used to key up the Marti type repeaters, both mobile and fixed. Just like the old automation cue tones, it may be slow but it works and is easy to filter out. Al, K9SI Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 20:20:56 -0600 From: Gregg R. Lengling [EMAIL

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Requiring CTCSS, etc.

2004-12-05 Thread Al Wolfe
PL100 is not a new idea but I don't know anyone who has tried it. It does seem to answer the issue of the transient user, one of the arguments put forward for having carrier squelch available. Motorola figured it out back in the late fifties, that they could have about ten times as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater 'noise' problem

2004-12-05 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
Try wacking the guy wires with a 2x4 during the time that the noise is present. Also try wacking the tower. If either of these changes or eliminates the noise, you have dissimilar metal rectification of the RF. This would be due to loose hardware or rusty guy wires. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 07:48

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater 'noise' problem

2004-12-05 Thread Laryn Lohman
John is right, but good jumpers can include RG142, RG400, 1/4 Heliax... Laryn K8TVZ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sure all the coax jumpers are OK. They should be good RG-214 and DEFINATELY not 9913. If you find any 9913 jumpers replace

RE: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?

2004-12-05 Thread Tony lelieveld
Not just the second harmonic. A power supply with a 120 Hz ripple on it (poorly filtered full wave rectification) could deviate the TX sufficiently to cause some PL decoders to see it as a 118.8 Hz PL tone. Tony, VE3DWI -Original Message- From: Steve Grantham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater 'noise' problem

2004-12-05 Thread russ
Hey John and every body, Make sure that there is a /u on the end of your RG-214 or RG-214/U big difference between RG-214 and RG-214/u Good Luck, 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004

Re: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?

2004-12-05 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Gregg R. Lengling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using tones below 60 Hz usually doesn't work for 2 reasons. #1 reason is that the transmitter will not reproduce that low of a tone without distortion and overdrivingand the receiver audio won't recover it. #2 the lower the frequency the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 repeaters

2004-12-05 Thread kb4mdz
I love Micors for what they are (radios built when radios required lots of aluminum, steel, and trunk space!) but they came out over what, 25 years ago? I put out a challenge; look at something newer. Mitrek VHF to 220; (or MSR2000; a quick look at the manuals will confirm they're pretty

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 repeaters

2004-12-05 Thread James
There are conversions out there for the Maxtrac radios. I have not tried it yet myself. James kb4mdz wrote: I love Micors for what they are (radios built when radios required lots of aluminum, steel, and trunk space!) but they came out over what, 25 years ago? I put out a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 repeaters

2004-12-05 Thread Kevin Custer
kb4mdz wrote: I love Micors for what they are (radios built when radios required lots of aluminum, steel, and trunk space!) but they came out over what, 25 years ago? Let me ask you a question. In the last 30 years what RF technology has evolved that makes any newer radio any better than a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 repeaters

2004-12-05 Thread Kevin Custer
You may want to try the group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, I have extensive experience with the Micor on 220, so ask away. http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/222menu.html As far as antenna go, if you like to build, try one of these with about 12 half waves in phase. It will fit in a old

Re: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?

2004-12-05 Thread Kevin Custer
I have to interject here... Gregg R. Lengling wrote: Using tones below 60 Hz usually doesn't work for 2 reasons. #1 reason is that the transmitter will not reproduce that low of a tone without distortion Your statement Gregg that "the' transmitter will not reproduce that low

Re: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?

2004-12-05 Thread Kevin Custer
James wrote: Kevin, you're just a show off (putting the com-spec code in there) I'm allowed grin 0Z - Find that one if ya dare :) Okay: http://www.n9jig.com/radio/PL.html (254.1 Hz.) Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater 'noise' problem

2004-12-05 Thread Kevin Custer
Rick Stoneking wrote: All, I am trying to resolve a problem ona local repeater where they are having intermittent 'noise' problems. The noise may be related to weather (wet or cold causing an increase in the problem) though it is not a everytime event. It was

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Requiring CTCSS, etc.

2004-12-05 Thread Neil McKie
Or put a 5 second time out timer on the 100 Hz tone access. Users could make a call but not hold a long conversation. Neil Kris Kirby wrote: On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, Al Wolfe wrote: normal tone. With this system any transient could access any PL100 compliant system by

Re: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?

2004-12-05 Thread Neil McKie
Yes, it does happen. Neil Tony lelieveld wrote: Not just the second harmonic. A power supply with a 120 Hz ripple on it (poorly filtered full wave rectification) could deviate the TX sufficiently to cause some PL decoders to see it as a 118.8 Hz PL tone. Tony, VE3DWI

Re: [Repeater-Builder] tone trivia..?

2004-12-05 Thread mch
You better incude Bob S-Com's modified PM exciter, too, or he will be disappointed. ;- Joe M. Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- I have tested many repeater transmitters and can verify that 'most' station exciters that employ FM

[Repeater-Builder] Micor RX Strip TLE8032A Shield Missing??

2004-12-05 Thread Adam C. Feuer
Hello Kevin All, I have a Micor RX Strip model TLE8032A and noticed that a shield is missing from being installed over the multiplier coils. I could have sworn that another RX strip that I had (now in service on a mountain) had that shield. It does NOT appear to have been removed but

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater 'noise' problem

2004-12-05 Thread Wade Lake
I personally have experienced more problems due to the antenna rods being loose especially the Diamond colinear antennas. I have not had problems due to 9913 cable usage before, its not out of the realm of possibilities but I would suspect the connectors and how they are installed more

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 repeaters

2004-12-05 Thread Wade Lake
I have built or been involved in building dozens of repeaters, new and old, many flavors. The absolute best sounding, trouble free and ruggedest repeater or mobile radios, bar none, I have ever seen are the Micor radios. Besides they have that awesome dynamic squelch and better audio than

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater 'noise' problem

2004-12-05 Thread Marvin Hoffman
Don't forget to consider power line noise due to cracked insulators and poor connections on transformers. On highband fire radio systemhave had a lot of trouble with the noise being due to 4160 volt primary arching in high wind and fog conditions. Even on a calm day (windwise) you could hit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater 'noise' problem

2004-12-05 Thread Barry Thompson
List, not sure if this applies to the noise on the repeater or not but Newline has confirmed a snap-crack-pop noise. ON THE AIR: THE NEW AMERICAN UHF WOODPECKER Is the US. Military interfering with your UHF repeater system? Could be, if you live in the great American South-West. Take a

[Repeater-Builder] Mobiltex Controller

2004-12-05 Thread ve3iny
I am constantly acquiring used Standard GX-3000 transceivers from various sources, for modification and use as repeaters and links. Cracking them open for the first time is always a joy. Typically in about 1 out of 5 transceivers, I find factory and field modifications that net all kinds

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor RX Strip TLE8032A Shield Missing??

2004-12-05 Thread Kevin Custer
Adam C. Feuer wrote: Hello Kevin All, I have a Micor RX Strip model TLE8032A and noticed that a shield is missing from being installed over the multiplier coils. I could have sworn that another RX strip that I had (now in service on a mountain) had that shield. It does NOT

[Repeater-Builder] intermittent 'noise' problems

2004-12-05 Thread Mr John Lloyd
Rick, Make sure you check other nearby towers for loose or rusty hardware. I had a similiar problem with a nearby tower, 100 Ft away from our 146.940 repeater antenna and the owner used a non galvanized anchor plate for his guy wires. Well it rusted over time and became the intermod generator

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor RX Strip TLE8032A Shield Missing??

2004-12-05 Thread Adam C. Feuer
Hmmm?? That's very interesting and thanks Kevin. What's so interesting is that it just doesn't look like it was removed, almost as if it were never there. My digital camera is at work, I'll bring it home and send you a picture. Thanks for the offer! Adam N2ACF - Original Message