Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread Larry
Not being familiar with the NFCC Voting system ... I'm looking for enlightenment. (Snip) Under the NFCC's proportional voting system, 93 votes were cast in favor of the motion by 19 members, and 54 against by 11 members. (Snip) Please explain ... 147 votes by 30 people..?? (Sounds like a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Damage, new UHF antenna needed

2007-09-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
It depends on your coverage area and the lay of the land. If you've got hills and users in close with HT's, you might want to consider a lower gain antenna. My first choice is the DB-408. Half the length and wind load/weight of the DB420 and it's much easier on your wallet. The 420 puts all

[Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Station Power Connections

2007-09-21 Thread John
Hello Group, I just picked up 2 Mastr II VHF Stations minus the power supplies. When I connect the big Red and Black power leads to the PA to 13.8 volts, no power reaches the rest of the station. The schematic in the manual shows a cable from the power supply going to the backplane or

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Station Power Connections

2007-09-21 Thread W5DK-GVTC
There will be 4 connectors on the back plane of the control shelf. Just behind the 10volt regulator card. Off those 4 connections is the wire harness going to the exciter and receiver and should be 2 red and black wires larger than most in the loom, those are the ones that go to the power supply.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread Jim
Chris Rosing wrote: Ok, For someone who isnt that much into the rules and regsthat would seem like a duh statement. Why is this such a big deal? To me, a repeater repeats the signal, hince a repeater. Looking at it, I am seeing that you refer to delays and transmission

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Making room for the new guy

2007-09-21 Thread Jim
tony dinkel wrote: There are large companies here in So Cal that consider things like Nextel walkie talkie an integral part of their emergency restoration plan. There is nothing funnier than to be in a conference room with a bunch of execs trying to talk to each other on their PTT

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Damage, new UHF antenna needed

2007-09-21 Thread Jamey Wright
I'm using a 450-470 DB-420 on the same pair and it works great. Jamey Wright KD4SIY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slick Identifier

2007-09-21 Thread Milt
You read the price list incorrectly. They are indicating that the DTD-1 is NLA. Glad the small board does what you want. It's been a while but I do remember there are several ways to filter a square wave out to more of a sine wave, but as long as the basic job of Id'ing is done that's what

[Repeater-Builder] Re: NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread ka3hsw
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which proposal is that? Joe M. George Henry wrote: That pretty much puts the final nail in the coffin of TASMA's proposal Their proposal to allocate 4 digital repeater pairs with outputs in the 145.5 -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread Jim
Nate Duehr wrote: Mathematics shows that in cases where some stations can hear others, whereas a third station (or fourth, fifth, sixth) can only hear one of the original two stations, there's a cap on effective channel throughput as eventually the channel (in the worst-case scenario)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread Jim
Larry wrote: Not being familiar with the NFCC Voting system ... I'm looking for enlightenment. (Snip) Under the NFCC's proportional voting system, 93 votes were cast in favor of the motion by 19 members, and 54 against by 11 members. (Snip) Please explain ... 147 votes by 30

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Making room for the new guy - repeater coordination - Hope this is not too o

2007-09-21 Thread ka3hsw
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One down side would be the internet gateway. I can direct a call to the DSTAR repeater in Malibu, CA from here in Temple, Texas and have no idea whether the channel in Malibu had analog traffic

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Damage, new UHF antenna needed

2007-09-21 Thread Maire-Radios
We have used a DB-420 450 to 470 on our ham repeater for years with no problem. Where are you guy's at? John - Original Message - From: Jeff To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:30 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Lightning Damage, new

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slick Identifier

2007-09-21 Thread Jim
Milt wrote: You read the price list incorrectly. They are indicating that the DTD-1 is NLA. Glad the small board does what you want. It's been a while but I do remember there are several ways to filter a square wave out to more of a sine wave, but as long as the basic job of Id'ing is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread Jim
Bob Dengler wrote: Kenwood SkyCommand. 100s of remote bases in SoCal. I won't speak for other areas, since I'm not familiar with what operators in those areas consider their systems to be. Here, they're auxiliary stations. Don't believe me? Consider that back in the early 70's when

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair Q-2B05D duplexer

2007-09-21 Thread ve3ext
Burt tnx for the info Jerry VE3 EXT

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mastr II Station Power Connections

2007-09-21 Thread charliejohn74
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HELLO, go to www.qsl.net/w4xethere is a smal plug that feeds the RF sections...this web site shows how to wire in this plug when now using regular GE P?S. hopes this helpsgod bless Hello Group, I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Making room for the new guy - repeater coordination - Hope this is not too o

2007-09-21 Thread Glenn Shaw
What are you hearing that is going to come out to define repeaters, remote bases, and auxiliary stations, and when will this be out? Thanks Glenn N1GBY Hi The fact that a D-Star repeater is made to transmit by another station via the internet does not make it an auxiliary station. This is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Slick Identifier

2007-09-21 Thread n9wys
Gran - go direct to Com Spec. Their price is currently listed as $69.95 - and nothing on their (Com Spec's) page says anything about it being discontinued. 73 de Mark - N9WYS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Gran Clark If you look at the price list is says

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread MCH
Each member has a proportional number of votes consistent with the number of licensed hams that live in their area. So, one member may have 1 vote who is in the middle of nowhere compared with someone in a populated area having 12 votes. Hard to understand? Look at the Electoral College. Someone

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread MCH
Actually, if you read that it is not contradictory to the NFCC's letter. There is actually a similar motion within the NFCC to similarly expand the repeater sub-band. Their proposal is interesting, however. If they believe they are AUX stations, no petition is required - AUX operation is legal

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Slick Identifier

2007-09-21 Thread Gran Clark
Mark This is where I got the information. I made the comment discontinued in error. They say NO LONGER AVAILABLE which is about the same when it comes to purchasing. Gran http://www.com-spec.com/price.htm At 09:46 AM 9/21/2007, you wrote: Gran – go direct to Com Spec… Their price is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slick Identifier

2007-09-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Look again. You are looking at the wrong item. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Gran Clark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Slick Identifier Mark This is where I got the

[Repeater-Builder] Ol' Joe....When All Else Fails??

2007-09-21 Thread kf8zn
One of our local repeaters was upgraded to an APCO P25 machine earlier this week, I like the fact that this protocol supports conventional FM voice as well. Like others have posted, I look at things from an Emergency Communications/Interoperability standpoint as well. I caution any

[Repeater-Builder] Milcom/Uniden ARX2125 220MHz Amplifier - Need Parts

2007-09-21 Thread George Sintchak
Anyone have an extra Amp available for spare parts. It looks like I've lost one of the finals due to self oscillation and destruction. Polyfet has a few in stock (lotsa $$$) but it's no longer reccommended for new designs. I can't seem to find a suitable (newer)substitute using the AT

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-21 Thread Nate Duehr
Don KA9QJG wrote: __,_. Speaking of the Alnico DR-235 , I had A Ham Friend Who was told by a Ham Radio Dealer with four State stores the Radio has been discontinued , They had one left , and the Reason was the New Model would come out made with Lead free Solder I have

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 link radios

2007-09-21 Thread Nate Duehr
Nate Duehr wrote: Don KA9QJG wrote: __,_. Speaking of the Alnico DR-235 , I had A Ham Friend Who was told by a Ham Radio Dealer with four State stores the Radio has been discontinued , They had one left , and the Reason was the New Model would come out made with Lead free Solder

[Repeater-Builder] Antenex FG1443

2007-09-21 Thread Nate Bargmann
I am looking to replace the local 2m repeater antenna. I found the Antenex FG1443 at an attractive price on the Web and am looking for any experiences/opinions on it. I have been thinking about a Hustler G6-144B but I am willing to trade a bit of gain for a more rugged antenna that will remain

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Lightning Damage, new UHF antenna needed

2007-09-21 Thread Nate Bargmann
* n0qzv_jhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Sep 21 00:08 -0500]: The DB 404 and 408 are great antennas, however I just purchased an Antenex YDA-4404 which is a regular 4 bay dipole. It is not as heavy duty as the DB antennas but is still better than most fiberglass antennas. It is tuneable and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenex FG1443

2007-09-21 Thread res1q6fs
I had the 220 MHz 3 dB model (FG2203) up three years at 250 feet side mounted on a very large tower with no problems. Roger W5RD - Original Message - From: Nate Bargmann To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 4:52 PM Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slick Identifier

2007-09-21 Thread Gran Clark
At 10:56 AM 9/21/2007, you wrote: Look again. You are looking at the wrong item. DTD-1== NO LONGER AVAILABLE ID-8 69.95 66.46 62.96 59.46 55.96 I have been looking at the ID-8 Identifier not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread no6b
At 9/21/2007 07:02, you wrote: Bob Dengler wrote: Kenwood SkyCommand. 100s of remote bases in SoCal. I won't speak for other areas, since I'm not familiar with what operators in those areas consider their systems to be. Here, they're auxiliary stations. Don't believe me? Consider

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slick Identifier

2007-09-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I guess I don't understand your problem then. I thought you wanted the ID-8 which is available for $69.95. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Gran Clark To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]

[Repeater-Builder] Mastr III receiver problem

2007-09-21 Thread Tina
I finally have the programming of this beast almost figured out, but I now have a new problem : The receiver is out of lock. Is there some physical adjustment I need to make inside the unit, or is it hidden somewhere in the programmer? I have it programmed for 146.61-. Thanks in advance for

[Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-110 help!

2007-09-21 Thread n3gh_1
I recently purchased a used RC-110 Controller.(all I can afford) Somehow I have messed up the voice chip output amp resulting in distorted audio. Does anyone have the capability to record the audio on a new voice chip for this unit? (thanks Ken for looking) Perhaps someone has a controller that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread George Henry
- Original Message - From: Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters [snip] You're right-the definition is pretty loose. Some of it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Making room for the new guy - repeater coordination - Hope this is not too o

2007-09-21 Thread George Henry
- Original Message - From: Glenn Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Making room for the new guy - repeater coordination - Hope this is not too o What are you hearing that is going to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NFCC votes to recommend FCC treat all repeaters as repeaters

2007-09-21 Thread George Henry
Read my earlier post under the Making room for the new guy... thread as to why their belief that they are aux stations is false. 73, George, KA3HSW - Original Message - From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: