[Repeater-Builder] Re: TX RX Systems Model Number Nomenclature

2007-12-29 Thread fineshot1
Yes, thanks Mike - I already scanned through that - but that is for duplexers. I am looking for the same thing but for the entire tx rx product line if it exists..dan n2aym --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:55 PM 12/28/07, you wrote: Anyone know where

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TX RX Systems Model Number Nomenclature

2007-12-29 Thread k1ike_mail
Some of the numbers that TX RX used were one-of-a-kind. I remember calling them about a combiner they built for a company I worked for. They had all the records of when it was built, who it was built for, and all the specifications. There record keeping was great, they could find the document

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TX RX Systems Model Number Nomenclature

2007-12-29 Thread MikeDeWaele
I think I can provide a scan of model numbers if you can wait till later today when i get my honey do list done. I have a complete txrx catalog with all that information in it. Mike KA2NDW -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

[Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector Files and Photos added to YahooGroups

2007-12-29 Thread Joe
For those of you who are interested in GLB Preselectors, I added some things to the Files and Photos area of this group. 73, Joe, K1ike ,___

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mitrek Transmitter Tuning

2007-12-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
You can easily figure out the connections to the Mitrek test sockets by examining the Mitrek Super Consolette test meter circuit here: www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/test-sets/hln4138a-mitrek-consolette-mete ring-kit.pdf All you need is a meter with a 50 uA movement and a 17,500 ohm resistor.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Manual

2007-12-29 Thread Randy
According to another source, the LBI-4100 is not the one I need, but the LBI-4938C is. . . . In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know where I can obtain the manual for GE LBI #4100 ? It is not found in: The 'Mastr' Index of GE LBI's

[Repeater-Builder] Re: TX RX Systems Model Number Nomenclature

2007-12-29 Thread fineshot1
Thanks Mike - if you could email it to my email address on qrz i would appreciate it and perhaps you could post it on the files section of this board for the benefit of everyone.dan n2aym --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MikeDeWaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I can provide a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater conversion

2007-12-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
Randy, The same information is covered in LBI-4938C, in the Ericsson format, here: www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-4938c.pdf I found this LBI by using Google to search for 4EF4A3 and found several sources. This LBI is intended to print in landscape orientation on 11 by 17 inch

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Manual

2007-12-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
It's the same manual. When Ericsson took over GE's product line, many of the LBIs were re-issued in a uniform 11 by 17 inch format. Unfortunately, newer is not always better. Some of Ericsson's LBIs do not contain all of the information and/or details found in the older GE versions. Also,

[Repeater-Builder] 220 Notes, Remember this old newsletter?

2007-12-29 Thread Joe
I probably have most of the 220 Notes that were published. This newsletter was Established in 1977 to promote the use of the 220Mhz band and the most recent editor was Art Reis K9XI. The publication ended in the early 1990's and I was sorry to see it go. This newsletter was a wealth of

[Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread Joe
My 2 friends just linked their 440 machines together using an Alinco DR-235T at each end for the link. They did find that there is a delay in time in which the decoder takes to decode and release. They are going to fix this by using Audio Delay Modules in the controllers at each end of the link.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread Ken Arck
At 02:29 PM 12/29/2007, you wrote: My 2 friends just linked their 440 machines together using an Alinco DR-235T at each end for the link. They did find that there is a delay in time in which the decoder takes to decode and release. They are going to fix this by using Audio Delay Modules in the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Manual

2007-12-29 Thread Randy
Again; Thankyou Eric for your time on this issue. . . . In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the same manual. When Ericsson took over GE's product line, many of the LBIs were re-issued in a uniform 11 by 17 inch format. Unfortunately, newer is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Notes, Remember this old newsletter?

2007-12-29 Thread res1q6fs
Thanks for reminding us old 220 FM types of this newsletter. I had totally forgotten about it. It was invaluable to me back in the 1979 when I was building my very first repeater. I had already ordered a Spec. Comm. RX and TX and, of course, that was my first mistake. The newsletter really

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread Joe
Have you ever used a delay board and know what it can do? Ken Arck wrote: At 02:29 PM 12/29/2007, you wrote: Nope. A delay board won't do a thing for the decode pickup time and probably not for the release time either. And a using a higher tone probably won't help either. You're talking

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 Notes, Remember this old newsletter?

2007-12-29 Thread Joe
Unfortunately these are all paper copies. They're fun to look through once in a while. 73, Joe, K1ike res1q6fs wrote: Have these newsletters ever been put on computer media or do they only exist as the old paper copies? Roger W5RD --Murphy, Texas 224.18 Dallas 223.82 Murphy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:32 PM 12/29/2007, you wrote: Have you ever used a delay board and know what it can do? ---Oh I think I have an idea what they do, yes. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread Joe
Let's see what is wrong with my statement. The repeater controller keys up the link radio via the PTT. The Audio Delay Board places a one second delay on the audio being sent to the link radio. This allows the 2 Alinco radios on either side of the link to key up and the PL encode/decode

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:47 PM 12/29/2007, you wrote: Let's see what is wrong with my statement. The repeater controller keys up the link radio via the PTT. The Audio Delay Board places a one second delay on the audio being sent to the link radio. This allows the 2 Alinco radios on either side of the link to key

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread Ken Arck
One other thing to consider. If one user is on repeater A and the other user being talked with is on the other repeater, you have a 2 second delay in turnover between the two. As I said, your users are gonna hate it. Ken

[Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Decoder Response Times

2007-12-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
Ken, TIA/EIA-603-C, the international standard for Land Mobile Radio performance, states that CTCSS decoder response times may vary between 224 milliseconds at 67.0 Hz to no more than 150 milliseconds at 100.0 Hz and above. I have measured response times of 80 milliseconds in some radios to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread Joe
Your original comment was: Nope. A delay board won't do a thing for the decode pickup time and probably not for the release time either. A delay board will help fix both problems. The only question is how much delay needs to be put into the system to make it work acceptably (not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Decoder Response Times

2007-12-29 Thread Ken Arck
I'm curious if you're talking mechanical or something else? Except for a funky MSF5000 I've been beating on (which takes a good 900 ms to decode 1Z), I've never seen performance as bad as you point out in an electronic type decoder. Mechanical, sure. For example, I have a reedless Mitrek

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread Ken Arck
Like I said, IMHO you're applying a band aid instead of fixing the root problem. Butto each his own :-) Are you going to use COS from the receiver to gate the audio in/out of the delay board? Ken At 05:11 PM 12/29/2007, you wrote: Your original comment was: Nope. A delay board

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread Joe
I haven't figured out exactly what Pin #1 SQC Squelch Signal Output lead characteristics of the Alinco DR-235T is. This is probably the COS that I will use from the receiver. I would like it to be a AND PL+COS output, but it probably is only PL decode out. We are going to experiment with

RE: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Decoder Response Times

2007-12-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
My measurements were made on an Alinco DR-605T radio which, given the known deficiencies of the brand, may be unrepresentative of the state of the art. The TIA Standard 603 is dated December 2004, so it is likely designed to have rather liberal limits on decoder responses. I agree that modern DSP

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Decoder Response Times

2007-12-29 Thread scomind
Hi Eric, The world would be a better place if repeater controller manufacturers included reverse burst capability..i S -- don't tell anybody, but the 7330 supports both standard reverse burst formats... :-) 73, Bob, WA9FBO **See AOL's top

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread scomind
Hi Joe, The delay board we are going to be using is adjustable for 64, 128, 256, 512 or 1024 milliseconds of delay. (NHRC-DAD board). That delay board uses the MX609 Delta Modulation CODEC, a device with a S/N ratio of 30-35 dB (at the highest sampling rate; varies with frequency)

[Repeater-Builder] Pager antenna-Amateur Band modification II

2007-12-29 Thread Peter P J
In response to my earlier posting on the RB few quarries are there, hence I wish give the following for further thought: The antenna is CELWAVE PD340-TP2 with 4 Separate folded dipoles on a big aluminum pipe mast. The connecting harness is routed through the pipe mast. This particular antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread no6b
At 12/29/2007 14:33, you wrote: At 02:29 PM 12/29/2007, you wrote: My 2 friends just linked their 440 machines together using an Alinco DR-235T at each end for the link. They did find that there is a delay in time in which the decoder takes to decode and release. They are going to fix this

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread no6b
At 12/29/2007 16:47, you wrote: Let's see what is wrong with my statement. The repeater controller keys up the link radio via the PTT. The Audio Delay Board places a one second delay on the audio being sent to the Who makes an ADM that can produce a 1 second delay? Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Linking with the Alinco DR-235T tranceivers

2007-12-29 Thread no6b
At 12/29/2007 17:11, you wrote: Your original comment was: Nope. A delay board won't do a thing for the decode pickup time and probably not for the release time either. A delay board will help fix both problems. The only question is how much delay needs to be put into the system to make it

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Pager antenna-Amateur Band modification II

2007-12-29 Thread skipp025
Hi Peter, You would need to modify the cable harness... else the modified antenna would not perform as well as you expect/hope. s. Peter P J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to my earlier posting on the RB few quarries are there, hence I wish give the following for further thought:

[Repeater-Builder] LMR-400 Coax use for Repeater to Duplexer Connections

2007-12-29 Thread n4rpd
I remember this was a topic of discussion over a year ago and I read all the posts but I do not find a definitive yes or no answer on whether or not to use LMR-400 Coax as the interconnect between my UHF repeater and duplexer. I have two 2' cables with N-Connectors at the duplexer and PL-259s at