Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CAT300 programming?

2008-07-25 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
On this page http://www.repeater-builder.com/cat-auto/cat-index.html there are links to the company web page and to the CAT controllers mailing list. At 06:30 AM 07/24/08, you wrote: Nuffink in the manual about a beacon ID mode! Cheers Dave UZN --- In

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer cables

2008-07-25 Thread Alexandre Souza
(It's easier to see this than to describe it in e-mail. Maybe someone will send some screen-shots of what it looks like someday... I've tried taking photos of my IFR 1500 with my cheap digital camera (4MP point-and-shoot Nikon) and it just doesn't look right. Each message I read makes me

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer cables - Data Base Idea

2008-07-25 Thread Shanon KA8SPW
Group, While looking for something yesterday I found a box that I have not opened in a few years. Inside is a file marked Duplexers containing many articles and booklets on the subject. There is also a binder from TxRx with all sorts of technical information on their products, including

[Repeater-Builder] Frequency pair

2008-07-25 Thread wjpcolorado
Sort of on topic... Does anyone know off the top of their head- what it would cost to get a UHF frequency pair from the FCC? We are a small emergency response team with a 501(c)3 status. We have an MSF5000 and a lot of other uhf radios that were donated to us. I just don't have the time to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency pair

2008-07-25 Thread Dave
The FCC doesn't not provide frequency pairs for repeaters. The local coordinating group does. The license (ham) is issues by FCC. coordination is not

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency pair

2008-07-25 Thread ks4ec
I think they are referring to a commercial pair, Remember not everyone is a ham! Rob KS4EC --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FCC doesn't not provide frequency pairs for repeaters. The local coordinating group does. The license (ham) is issues by FCC.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency pair

2008-07-25 Thread Jim Brown
Check with Homeland Security in your area.  They have frequencies assigned and might be able to let you use one of them. 73 - Jim  W5ZIT --- On Fri, 7/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency pair To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency pair

2008-07-25 Thread George Henry
There ARE frequency coordinators for commercial pairs, as well... a list is on the FCC website at http://www.fcc.gov/pshs/public-safety-spectrum/coord.html. It appears that the filing fee for a new land mobile license below 470 MHz is $60.00, according to the fee schedule I drilled down to.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer cables

2008-07-25 Thread wd8chl
I think we are making much ado about nothing here. Certainly, for UHF and VHF duplexers, the lengths of the cables that came with it should be fine for the ham band as well. At least I've never seen one that it matters. Now, I suppose moving one that is for 160-175 down to 146, yeah, you'd

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency pair

2008-07-25 Thread wd8chl
George Henry wrote: There ARE frequency coordinators for commercial pairs, as well... a list is on the FCC website at http://www.fcc.gov/pshs/public-safety-spectrum/coord.html. It appears that the filing fee for a new land mobile license below 470 MHz is $60.00, according to the fee

[Repeater-Builder] Re: New 6M Repeater in Central NH

2008-07-25 Thread Jason Greene
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a well known problem with MASTR II PA's. Nate WY0X Thanks, Nate. I will pass that along to Rick. He is the chief engineer at WCVB in Boston, so there's a good chance that problem was remedied. Jason

[Repeater-Builder] Re: New 6M Repeater in Central NH

2008-07-25 Thread Jason Greene
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No point in extending the pointless license class wars on a club website though. Nate WY0X I understood that caption as a reference their abilities. If you were familiar with the club up here you would know this

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DC Remotes

2008-07-25 Thread Jason Greene
If I understand DC remotes correctly, they are controlled by polarity and voltage? Jason

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DC Remotes

2008-07-25 Thread wd8chl
Jason Greene wrote: If I understand DC remotes correctly, they are controlled by polarity and voltage? Close-current. Usually transmit on F1 (channel 1) is either +5 to 6mA or +11 to 12 mA. Voltage is varied to provide that current.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: KL Duplexer (Possibly 220 MHz?)

2008-07-25 Thread Bob
Joe: Thanks for the info. I did a cheap 'n' dirty tune up with the service monitor and my DC-to-light receiver and was able to get the beast to behave surprisingly well. It required backing out the tuning screws far enough so that the duplexer will now have to rest on its side, but I think

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency pair

2008-07-25 Thread Fred Seamans
Your are just going to have to make time. Frequency coordination is a slow process no matter which service you are eligible for. You might start with APCO International to find out if you are eligible under the Public Safety area. If not they can direct you in the right direction. Fred W5VAY

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DC Remotes

2008-07-25 Thread skipp025
Polarity and Current and depending on the mfgr the direction of the current and mostly the value in mA (milli-amps). The current generator (not voltage) is controlled to set and control the proper functions on the termination panel or dc remote adapter box. Works very well... but the phone

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency pair

2008-07-25 Thread n9wys
And a Business Band license fee is $105 for a 10-year license - not including the coordinator's fees. http://mymotorolaradio.com/fcc.asp Mark - N9WYS / WQIV271 -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of wd8chl George Henry wrote: There ARE frequency

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DC Remotes

2008-07-25 Thread Gary Glaenzer
'normal base' series +5.5 mA = TX F1 on 2-freq +12 mA = TX F2 or Fi on single-freq station -2.5 mA = PL monitor -5.5 mA = 2nd receiver knock-down -12.5 mA = page (kills PL on transmit) then there is the 'repeater control' series + 5.5 = TX +12.5 = repeater on -2.5 = PL monitor -5.5 =

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Frequency pair

2008-07-25 Thread George Henry
Looking at Part 90.20(1)(iii) and (2)(iii) it looks like they could qualify for the Public Safety pool... George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 --- wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Now exactly what kind of coordination/service they are eligible for is another question...since they are not a

[Repeater-Builder] How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread garyp609
Output frequency is 145.450 input is 144.850. How do I figure out what length the cables should be between the rx side and tx side that connect to the T-Connector? Thanks and 73's ! Gary K2ACY

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread Jim Brown
What kind of duplexer is it?  I have several older Sinclair 2 meter duplexers that were up in the 170 mHz range that I moved down to the ham band, and I had to replace each 10.5 inch cable that went from the can to the Tee with a cable 12.5 inches long.  Turns out for those older models that

[Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread garyp609
Jim, Thanks for the response. The duplexer is a Telewave TPRD1554. They are brand new and bought from Tessco tuned. The cable on the RX side is marked 11 in black marker on the connector and the TX side is marked 11 1/2 . Both cables terminate at the T. I just want to feel assured that they

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DC Remotes

2008-07-25 Thread JOHN MACKEY
There are several different standards for polarity and current when working with DC remotes. -- Original Message -- Received: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:26:25 AM PDT From: wd8chl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DC Remotes Jason Greene

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Channel Guard

2008-07-25 Thread Bill
Hi Joe; I had the same problem and found the the dipswitch module was bad. We found another module and it worked great. Check each switch with a VOM. Bill N8LXM kb5vjy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Small problem that I'm sure will bring out a chuckle to the experienced repeater builders

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread Bob M.
Telewave is VERY responsive to e-mails and even phone calls. I've had technical questions about their duplexers on several occasions and have sent e-mail to their only public e-mail address. Usually I get a reply later the same day or first thing in the morning from a man named Ray Collins.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Fri, 7/25/08, garyp609 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: garyp609 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 7:09 PM Jim, Thanks for the response. The duplexer is a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CAT300 programming?

2008-07-25 Thread Mark Cindy Cosgrove
Hi, I hpoe this helps.   1) Enter the 7number code.   2) Enter *607* 900   3)  Enter *0 to exit     Mark   N8TSK   [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- On Thu, 7/24/08, dave_g7uzn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dave_g7uzn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread garyp609
What duplexer would you recommend? I was expecting better results. Is there a huge difference in 77db versus 100db isolation besides the price? Performance wise. Kinda wish I would have done my homework before buying the TPRD1554. Running 25 watts here. What is your duplexer of choice? Thanks

[Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread garyp609
Thanks for the info. I will call call Telewave for an education. The TPRD1454 shows 77db of isolation and a minimum of a 1 meg split. I am running .600 split here. 73's Gary K2ACY --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Telewave is VERY responsive to e-mails

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread Bob M.
As someone else mentioned, 77dB is nowhere near enough isolation, especially at 600 kHz spacing. You need at least 90dB with double-shielded coax between the duplexer and radios. As with so many other things in life, more is better. This also translates to more bucks. You may need a six-cavity

[Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread garyp609
Bob, Point well taken and thank you. If I were to change the seperation to 1mhz and get the duplexer retuned would that provide enough isolation? I guess my question is will the duplexers work ok with a different band split? Thanks, Gary K2ACY --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bob M.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread Paul Finch
Bob and Group, Telewave used to, my Ex-Boss used to call up and ask Ray Collins what the length of coax would be for to change a channel on a combiner to a new frequency. Ray would give him a length and the Boss would have one of us Techs to build it. Sadly, Ray is semi-retired and only works

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread no6b
At 7/25/2008 18:02, you wrote: As someone else mentioned, 77dB is nowhere near enough isolation, especially at 600 kHz spacing. You need at least 90dB with double-shielded coax between the duplexer and radios. As with so many other things in life, more is better. This also translates to more

[Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread skipp025
The values jive close with what I have here. An original TPRD-1454 I ordered direct from Telewave on 145.470 MHz. Have no problem running the mentioned duplexer at about 45 watts and a decent .2uV receiver. Works great... lasted without fail from 1987 when I paid about $630 new for it. Prices

[Repeater-Builder] Re: How to figure cable length for duplexer?

2008-07-25 Thread skipp025
At the risk of sounding like Skipp, it all depends on the quality of the repeater transmitter receiver. Bob NO6B We are Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. s.