Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-17 Thread Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle
Wow, What an interesting artical. A lot of information on the early days of TV in the US. I was however interested in the Cone Dipole antenna they had display in a couple of the photos. I did a quick search for cone dipole on google but came back with no results. Would be interested in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I believe that the cone dipole was the predecessor for today's bow-tie design. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-17 Thread wd8chl
Paul Plack wrote: As has been mentioned elsewhere, the 20 WPM limit in the US only applies to a device used exclusively for ID, a loophole that allows you to send at whatever speed you want with a modern repeater controller. Right. Information other then the callsign can be sent at any

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?

2009-02-17 Thread wd8chl
Mike Pugh wrote: tsoli...@tir.com wrote: Program the hang time in the TP-38 to zero and connect it to the RC-850 controller as shown below. I'd like to see this diagram as well, since I had been thinking about this for quite some time... However, at least on my copy of the original

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-17 Thread wd8chl
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Peter Summerhawk commcon...@... wrote: Morning Crew, I need some suggestions on what tone frequency people are using for the ID on their repeater as well as speed for the ID. I am using a repeater controller that I can adjust the frequency and speed

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-17 Thread wd8chl
Kris Kirby wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Peter Summerhawk wrote: Morning Crew, I need some suggestions on what tone frequency people are using for the ID on their repeater as well as speed for the ID. I am using a repeater controller that I can adjust the frequency and speed of the system. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New 10mtr Repeater Active from Auckland, NZ (ZL Land) - Slightly OT

2009-02-17 Thread wd8chl
Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle wrote: Hi Eric, In responce to your email. In NZ the regulary body (Govt) states that access to any Amateur Radio installion must be available to all access. What this means to us that we can only use carrier access, no tones like in a CTCSS

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: freg

2009-02-17 Thread wd8chl
Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: Maybe we can put a 6m repeater on the channel 2 tower? It's 970 feet tall on top of a 5,000 foot mountain, and the chief engineer is ham-friendly... Mike WA6ILQ Now THAT would be cool! Build up something that runs about 1300-1400W out (properly metered of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer Cable Length / Recomendations

2009-02-17 Thread wd8chl
Trevor wrote: And I thought this was a good place to get help - I guess it's just like QRZ or hamsexy - A bunch of jackasses that have egos larger than Motorola. hmm-no wonder you don't get answers with that attitude.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Repeater

2009-02-17 Thread Mark
So do I. 12 chassis in all. Some PAs. No power supplies or cabinets. Many cards. These are Community Repeaters - designed for multiple PL access, such as GMRS, etc. Mail direct to: n9wys (at) ameritech (dot) net for info. Mark - N9WYS From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On

[Repeater-Builder] Suggested value for caps in 222Mhz duplexers

2009-02-17 Thread Joe
We are in the process of converting some cellwave pass cans for pass/reject. My thought is to add a series capacitor to the loop and use a single loop per can. Any suggestions for the value of the piston capacitor to use at this frequency? I need to order or scrounge some up for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Suggested value for caps in 222Mhz duplexers

2009-02-17 Thread DCFluX
2-10pF johansen style is what I used. If you have any GE channel elements lying around I suggest you try the trimmer caps from there. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net wrote: We are in the process of converting some cellwave pass cans for pass/reject. My thought is to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: freg

2009-02-17 Thread no6b
At 2/17/2009 07:13, you wrote: Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: Maybe we can put a 6m repeater on the channel 2 tower? It's 970 feet tall on top of a 5,000 foot mountain, and the chief engineer is ham-friendly... Mike WA6ILQ Now THAT would be cool! Build up something that runs about

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-17 Thread no6b
At 2/17/2009 06:49, you wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Peter Summerhawk commcon...@... wrote: Morning Crew, I need some suggestions on what tone frequency people are using for the ID on their repeater as well as speed for the ID. I am using a repeater controller that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-17 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
Try: Conical Antenna or Bi-Conical Antenna Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle wrote: Wow, What an interesting artical. A lot of information on the early days of TV in the US. I was however interested in the Cone Dipole antenna they had display in a couple of the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-17 Thread skipp025
But I've never understood the point in trying to bury the ID or get it over with. It's not like it prevents anyone from continuing the conversation. In work-horse applications most people simply want to get the CW ID out of the way. Especially at locations where multiple CW audio is

[Repeater-Builder] Redesign to discuss

2009-02-17 Thread Dave Gomberg
I would like to talk to somebody with experience in tx/rx design and high speed circuit design who would be willing to execute a trade-secret agreement. I have an idea which if it is implementable might revolutionize the whole repeater concept. I have had one opinion that it is not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MPT Trunked Radio in CB Band

2009-02-17 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 09:53 PM 02/16/09, you wrote: Hi Everybody, Good day. Does anybody know about the a portable/mobile and basestation MPT trunked radio operating in citizen band (CB)? Best Regards, Kent Chong What country ?? CB in the USA is 27MHz using AM and MPT is very rare in the US. CB in NZ is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Redesign to discuss

2009-02-17 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Dave Gomberg wrote: I would like to talk to somebody with experience in tx/rx design and high speed circuit design who would be willing to execute a trade-secret agreement. I have an idea which if it is implementable might revolutionize the whole repeater concept. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Plack
...Information other then the callsign can be sent at any speed... ...Interesting how different controllers/ID boards seem to have different definitions of 20 WPM... Creative interpretations aside, there's nothing vague about 97.119(b)(1). If the device (in my case a microprocessor-controlled

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need some advice- Tone and ID for repeater

2009-02-17 Thread AJ
Some of us choose to go with the faster CWID, coupled with very short courtesy tones, no shelf time and very short hang times to further reduce the duty cycle of our portable event/disaster repeaters... On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Paul Plack pl...@xmission.com wrote: ...Information

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Redesign to discuss

2009-02-17 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 11:17 2/17/2009, Kris Kirby wrote: It's been done. All of it, before. You're probably looking at using DSPs to implement a transponder as a repeater. I am not sure I understand this idea. Do you have a web site on it or -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MPT Trunked Radio in CB Band

2009-02-17 Thread John Gleichweit
By Kent's email domain, I'd gather that he's in Singapore. I'm not sure what the unlicensed/low restriction band may be over there, but it's probably in the 450-470 range. -- John Smokey Behr Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852 List Owner x10,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-17 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@... wrote: I believe that the cone dipole was the predecessor for today's bow-tie design. Perhaps earlier, but basically the same. Bow-ties are simpler/cheeper to make because they are simply flat sheet metal instead of round cones.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Redesign to discuss

2009-02-17 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Dave Gomberg wrote: It's been done. All of it, before. You're probably looking at using DSPs to implement a transponder as a repeater. I am not sure I understand this idea. Do you have a web site on it or I think STELLA does it. Somewhere in here:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-17 Thread Laryn Lohman
For those interested in bowtie/conical antennas, or dozens of other types for that matter, visit http://www.cebik.com/ Register, then search for the terms, or simply wade through the topics. There's enough data at that site to keep antenna geeks happy for days. Laryn K8TVZ

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MPT Trunked Radio in CB Band

2009-02-17 Thread Ray_Vaughan_99
Just a bit of US CB history... Class A CB is now known as GMRS. 462/467 MHz. Wide band FM and many repeaters. The one everyone thinks of was Class D, the 'good buddy' band of the 1970's. I got my start in 2-way radio on both Class A and D. Class B was short lived, not sure what it was. Class

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: freg

2009-02-17 Thread Ray_Vaughan_99
While that is THE source, this site has a much better display of the Analog and DTV data based on your location: http://www.tvfool.com FM stations are also available. This site is perfect for setting up antennas or for DTV/Analog/FM DX. Ray --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: freg

2009-02-17 Thread Ray_Vaughan_99
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@... wrote: But for the first time in my lifetime 6m will get better - channels 2, 4, and 5 are going off the air (until the FCC sells that spectrum). Or some new stations take over that spectrum. I think it's stupid that we

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MPT Trunked Radio in CB Band

2009-02-17 Thread Kent Chong
Dear John,   Yes, we are located in Singapore. We are thinking of putting up a MPT system in CB band. Do you have any products/suppliers that you could recommend to us?   Best Regards,   Kent Chong    --- On Wed, 18/2/09, John Gleichweit smokeyb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: John Gleichweit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Redesign to discuss

2009-02-17 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 17:52 2/17/2009, Kris Kirby wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Dave Gomberg wrote: It's been done. All of it, before. You're probably looking at using DSPs to implement a transponder as a repeater. I am not sure I understand this idea. Do you have a web site on it or I think STELLA

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MPT Trunked Radio in CB Band

2009-02-17 Thread MCH
My understanding of Class B (from this list, I think) is that it was a lot power 465.000 MHz AM channel. Joe M. Ray_Vaughan_99 wrote: Just a bit of US CB history... Class A CB is now known as GMRS. 462/467 MHz. Wide band FM and many repeaters. The one everyone thinks of was Class D, the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: freg

2009-02-17 Thread MCH
There will still be TV channels 2-6 on DTV. There is a Channel 2 in Harrisburg, PA. It's not as if Broadcast is going to give up that spectrum. Besides, it's fun to DX TV stations, and is a good beacon system to tell you when the band is up. Joe M. Ray_Vaughan_99 wrote: --- In

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: freg

2009-02-17 Thread JOHN MACKEY
The only problem diplexing the 6 meter transmissions with TV channel 2 is that the television transmit antenna would be horizontal polarized. -- Original Message -- Received: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:15:57 PM PST From: Ray_Vaughan_99 r...@rayvaughan.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MPT Trunked Radio in CB Band

2009-02-17 Thread Mike Mullarkey
Kent, Kenwood has the TK-8180 Mobile and the TK-3180 Portable will work in your band your requiring. Just curious, why go to MPT1327 and not TDMA digital. Mike _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Chong Sent:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?

2009-02-17 Thread AJ
Alright, finally put this in to ExpressSCH to match up roughly the general consensus: http://www.vwreact.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tp3200-to-nhrc.png Something along those lines? Thanks again for the input! -AJ, K6LOR On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:49 AM, wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone ever interface a CSI TP3200 tone panel to an external controller?

2009-02-17 Thread wd8chl
AJ wrote: Alright, finally put this in to ExpressSCH to match up roughly the general consensus: http://www.vwreact.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/tp3200-to-nhrc.png Something along those lines? Thanks again for the input! -AJ, K6LOR Nope, not quite. PTT from the 3200 would go to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MPT1327 Trunked Trunking - Radio in CB Band

2009-02-17 Thread skipp025
Well, One thought is the cost of both the user and fixed equipment. Many Kenwood radios can be ordered with the MPT-1327 firmware installed and ready to go. I've sold a number of them to various people on local systems. The MPT-1327 fixed station hardware (repeaters) should also be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-17 Thread Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle
Thanks Guys for the info, no need to reply. Kevin. Get Skype and call me for free. - Original Message - From: Laryn Lohman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:18 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna