Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread JOHN MACKEY
The issue you point to of CW being allowed in the voice band is a bandwidth issue. That has nothing to do with repeater sub-bands. You can call the frequency ranges (where the FCC allows repeaters) a defacto band plan or any other term you want. What it means is that a person could use 146.52

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Steve petn...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Steve petn...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 10:35 PM This is a bit of another example where people want to extend their

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Chuck Kelsey
In lots of areas, there are no open 2 meter repeater pairs. Yes, and there are plenty of open repeaters sitting there idle. Go use one of them. Suspose all repeater owners decide to go closed and not let any new hams on the system. I don't think I'll lay awake nights worring about it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quantar Battery Type Selection

2009-07-27 Thread craigclarknh
Hey Tim, I was lucky and got 14 UPS batteries from a change out at work, all 260 AH! and all good, they just change them every year for safety. But they weigh almost 100 lbs! - Original Message - From: tahrens301 tahr...@swtexas.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread MCH
OK, let's see if you understand this explanation... The only place on 2M repeaters are not allowed is in the satellite and weak signal sub-bands. From your theory, FM simplex, packet, and any mode other than satellite, weak signal, and repeaters are the only modes that should be operated on

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread MCH
And who made 2M the only repeater band? Just like HF - if all the frequencies are used, try another band or wait for something to open up. Also, many areas have SNP pairs where anyone can put a repeater on the pair. Oh, and what would happen if 'all' repeaters went closed? I would make mine

[Repeater-Builder] Need a UHF BpBR Duplexer on 462/467.600 pair

2009-07-27 Thread kc8gpd
I have a Kenwood TK-760-1 Mobile, a KMC-9 Deskmic, and a SEC-1223 power supply to trade for one set on my pair.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series)

2009-07-27 Thread NORM KNAPP
Again Eric Thanks for the wisdom and information. I will digest this over the next several days and when I can I am going to apply it. I have what I feel is a very good service monitor with tracking generator/spectrum analyzer. I have access to an Anaritsu site master. It has a return loss

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread JOHN MACKEY
But that is not always an option. We have some repeater owners/trustees who simply are not mentally stable. I've seen trustees shut repeaters down because of the following: 1. People were talking about guns. 2. People were talking all night. 3. Someone allowed his child to talk on the repeater.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Jacob Suter
My views on this: #1 - If you want a closed repeater then you should get a private repeater pair coordinated in an appropriate private-communication pool. will happily assign you a private repeater pair for a reasonable price. Plain and simple. Amateur radio is not a replacement for a cell

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, JOHN MACKEY wrote: You can call the frequency ranges (where the FCC allows repeaters) a defacto band plan or any other term you want. What it means is that a person could use 146.52 Mhz as a repeater input or output legally as long as they are not causing interference.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Cort Buffington
Good point on GMRS, Jacob. I have a GMRS license that I use with family on road trips, etc. I have considered putting up a GMRS repeater as well, but know there's not enough users to really warrant the work, so I stay with my 70cm amateur repeater. On a likely non-related issue concerning

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Larry Wagoner
At 04:10 PM 7/27/2009, you wrote: On a likely non-related issue concerning open vs. closed: A non- trivial number of the local believe that use of PL/DPL constitutes a closed repeater. Cort, When were these people licensed - and WHO taught them? I teach the Tech class in my area - and the facts

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009, Larry Wagoner wrote: On a likely non-related issue concerning open vs. closed: A non- trivial number of the local believe that use of PL/DPL constitutes a closed repeater. Cort, When were these people licensed - and WHO taught them? I teach the Tech class in my area

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
I've been watching this post for a number of days now. Seems that there are a lot of hams who have at lot of opinions to share. I'm going to throw out a question to all: Has anyone checked with in individual state coordinating associations about this matter when applying for or renewing their

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Chuck Kelsey
CTCSS is mandatory here. Western New York Southern Ontario Repeater Counsel is the coordinating body for my area. They have recommended tones, but permit alternative tone use. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Don Kupferschmidt d...@httpd.org To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Cort Buffington
I'll grab a reply to Don and Larry together: We do have PL coordination in Kansas. There are recommended frequencies for different regions to make it a bit easier, but there's still a lot of stuff out there where I think the hams used whatever reeds their surplus gear came with, etc. OR

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread no6b
At 7/27/2009 14:08, you wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, JOHN MACKEY wrote: You can call the frequency ranges (where the FCC allows repeaters) a defacto band plan or any other term you want. What it means is that a person could use 146.52 Mhz as a repeater input or output legally as long as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Mon, 7/27/09, Don Kupferschmidt d...@httpd.org wrote: From: Don Kupferschmidt d...@httpd.org Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 8:52 PM I've been watching this post for a number of days now.  Seems

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread Michael Ryan
Yes, lots of comments, lots of opinions this week. Here's a new one. If someone wants their own private repeater for their own group, put it on a private BAND. How about coordinating a pair on the 220 band or 1.2 ghz. Privacy, lots of available pairs, nothing to fight over, and you won't have to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread MCH
WPA has standard CTCSS tones (and CDCSS codes), but use (decode) is not mandated except in specific cases, and encode is highly recommended. On SNP pairs, the CTCSS/CDCSS Tones/Codes are coordinated only to the extent to prevent reuse in a given area. Regardless, CTCSS/CDCSS use does not make

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series)

2009-07-27 Thread Eric Lemmon
Norm, A Polyphaser does not put a DC ground on the center conductor of the feedline- nor does any other inline arrestor of any brand, except a quarter-wave shorted stub. But that is impractical at 2m. My point was simply that a single bandpass cavity on either the TX or the RX side, between the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-27 Thread John Godfrey
Here is the way we do it in Arkansas. There are six districts and each use different CTCSS tones. As far as the discussion of open and closed based on tone, I hear from many older hams that toned repeaters are closed and non-toned repeaters are open (must have been that way before my time no

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series)

2009-07-27 Thread Michael J.Talkington
Eric, Please read about this Lightning arrestor that drains static and please let me know your thoughts as I use them here http://www.iceradioproducts.com/impulse1.html#1 http://www.iceradioproducts.com/33.htm Thanks Mike KC8FWD

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 duplexers (frankenstein series)

2009-07-27 Thread Eric Grabowski
Eric, Why is a quarter-wave shorted stub impractical at 2m? I have been told that a quarter-wave shorted stub would serve two purposes: a) provide a dc path to ground for static caused by precip or wind, and also b) substantially reduce the strength of a transmitter's second harmonic. 73 and