Re: [Repeater-Builder] An advocate for a little audio compression

2009-08-10 Thread Nate Duehr
On Aug 9, 2009, at 9:07 PM, skipp025 wrote: re: An advocate for a little audio compression. Yeah, I know a decent number of you are in-stone same-in to same-out repeater audio levels types. However, I've changed my opinion. You're a brave man to say it, Skipp. Here's my problem with it.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor cos question

2009-08-10 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Did you put a pull-up resistor on the collector of the transistor? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Nick w7...@sbcglobal.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:32 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor cos question I have a micor Station , I

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Replacement Caps. for Motorola Micor Pwr supplies

2009-08-10 Thread Greg Beat
CDE Capacitors: http://www.cde.com/ All major distributors (Mouser, DigiKey, Allied, Newark, Future, Arrow) carry these USA made products -- BUT no specific distributor based in Hawaii. Need mounting hardware for the new capacitor styles? http://www.cde.com/catalogs/hardware.pdf Join CDE's

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-10 Thread Paul Dumdie
If you want Laird / Antenex does make a 2 and 4 dipole array for the 2 meter band the part number is YDA1362 for a 2 dipole 136-150 antenna and YDA1364 for the 4 dipole antenna. They don't come with a mast pipe like the cushcraft antennas from long ago. They have a YDA2004 for 200-225 MHZ and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-10 Thread AJ
On this same topic of the mast-less Antennex/Laird dipole arrays, has anyone attempted to top mount these from a fiberglass mast to minimize interaction with the normal steel pole? I have quite a few surplus fiberglass poles left that would likely work, even for side mounting on 1/2 wave spacing

[Repeater-Builder] SM50 440 mod

2009-08-10 Thread tonyn2mft
Trying to get a UHF SM50 M44DCG20A2AAA down to 440. Already tried the shift method without success. Searched Google high and low with little success. There was a few threads on the boards about moving this down. Dropped and few emails with out a return. I've read on Batlabs on moving the SM50

[Repeater-Builder] Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread tahrens301
Was just curious as to if folks have gotten Notch cavities to work ok with a 600khz split. Have 4 in Rx leg 4 in TX leg. According to the analyzer, each bank has a 90dB notch. Double shielded cable throughout (RG-9). Just about pulled all my hair out over the last couple of weeks, and still

Re: [Repeater-Builder] SM50 440 mod

2009-08-10 Thread Cort Buffington
I used the batlabs article: http://www.batlabs.com/sm50.html and modified my codeplug file to make mine go down to 438 It works pretty good down to 440, but it starts dropping off pretty quickly below that. On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:47 AM, tonyn2mft wrote: Trying to get a UHF SM50

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor cos question

2009-08-10 Thread Nick W7NIK
I did only the one mod which was . 9.6v to a 10k resistor to the base, emitter went to ground, collector to the controller. This mod was on the better duplexing for a micor  station on repeater builder site.  Nick w7nik 775-626-7605 Web site-- http://geocities.com/w7...@sbcglobal.net/ When

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread DCFluX
Can you tell us more about the model of your duplexer? When you say notch is it: A. Flat pack mobile style notch only duplexer with a 3MHz minimum split. B. Wacom BpBr cavites such as WP-639. C. Motorola style notch only small cans. Also if you have a VHF circulator you can replace the tee

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-10 Thread Paul Plack
If you mount the array on a non-conductive pole, won't you then have to model the effects of interaction with the outside of the coax shields of the feedline harness that would normally be insignificant when attached to the side of a conductive pole? - Original Message - From: AJ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor cos question

2009-08-10 Thread Nick W7NIK
I might have to add 12 volts into a 10k to the collector. Thanks to a friend in our club , he suggested to use the NHRC cas inverter . I did not want to that with out direction. I don't smoke anymore ::))  Nick w7nik 775-626-7605 Web site-- http://geocities.com/w7...@sbcglobal.net/ When all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor cos question

2009-08-10 Thread Kevin Custer
Nick W7NIK wrote: I did only the one mod which was . 9.6v to a 10k resistor to the base, emitter went to ground, collector to the controller. This mod was on the better duplexing for a micor station on repeater builder site. That part of the modification is not intended to drive a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-10 Thread Kevin Custer
Paul Plack wrote: If you mount the array on a non-conductive pole, won't you then have to model the effects of interaction with the outside of the coax shields of the feedline harness that would normally be insignificant when attached to the side of a conductive pole? Be careful here

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor cos question

2009-08-10 Thread Nick W7NIK
Thanks Kevin , That mobile note threw me off . I did see that mod. I will give that a try thanks again. Your mods are very helpful.  Nick w7nik 775-626-7605 Web site-- http://geocities.com/w7...@sbcglobal.net/ When all else fails . Amateur Radio.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread tahrens301
Hi Dcflu7x, It's a DB products SP-1894. Can't get any info on it from anywhere. Each of the 8 cans have the approx dimensions of 5 x 21. A single screw-type shaft in the center, and one SO-239 sticking out of the top of the can. No variable caps, or anything else on the cans. Each can has an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread DCFluX
Ok, if they are the type with the variable coupling loop you should have 2 coupling loop holes per cavity, just one has a round hole cover. If so take 2 cavities and transplant a coupling loop to one of them to make 1 band pass cavity. Make another one for the RX side Place the band pass cavities

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2M Vertical Dipoles

2009-08-10 Thread AJ
Hmm, that would make sense... Back to the drawing board :) On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com wrote: Paul Plack wrote: If you mount the array on a non-conductive pole, won't you then have to model the effects of interaction with the outside of the coax shields

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Mon, 8/10/09, tahrens301 tahr...@swtexas.net wrote: From: tahrens301 tahr...@swtexas.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 1:21 PM Hi Dcflu7x, It's a DB products SP-1894. 

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread tahrens301
Hi Ralph, No, they were 10 as came from the factory for 166 mhz, so it didn't look like they were cut for anything in particular. DCflux - I started to do what you suggested... sounded like something else to try. Took the link out of the last can the loop wasn't soldered to the PL259

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread DCFluX
I've actually seen that before on a Wacom. Go with silver bearing solder if you have it. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:19 AM, tahrens301tahr...@swtexas.net wrote: Hi Ralph, No, they were 10 as came from the factory for 166 mhz, so it didn't look like they were cut for anything in particular.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] SM50 440 mod

2009-08-10 Thread k7pfj
Yes they will play nice down there. I have had t many to count as links Full-Duplex and they will play nice to the 430Mhz without any modification other than the hacked software. Mike Mullarkey - Original Message - From: tonyn2mft tonyn2...@gmail.com To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hp 8921a test set

2009-08-10 Thread kerinvale
Hi guys just to finish off .the fault was the 2 amps in the input atten After these were replaced all tested ok . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au ---Original Message--- From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon sm4450sc

2009-08-10 Thread kerinvale
Hi guys .thanks for the replys .The fault was I had too much length between the radio and the ctcss decoder card .I have altered most of my repeaters to allow the maxons to decode the signal by itself and then it controls the transmitter by the maxon approved design with a bs170 fet .I have now

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair R2B12 duplexer

2009-08-10 Thread cruizzer77
That's what I did first but they do at least pretend they have no info left on this older model duplexer. But the typical Sinclair instruction leaflet (some are available for other models on repeater-builder and on Sinclair's website) doesn't reveal such info anyway. Duplexer manufacturers in

[Repeater-Builder] Re: An advocate for a little audio compression

2009-08-10 Thread Laryn Lohman
Nate, your comments about compression and bad-sounding audio coming in from IRLP just goes to show, at least in part, that improperly set-up compression/AGC sounds bad. For several years, I ran an Alesis 3630 on the audio coming in from IRLP and feeding our local repeater transmitter. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair R2B12 duplexer

2009-08-10 Thread Rick Szajkowski
Google Bob Morton .. he is an x Sinclair man .. he knows his stuff .. he might have the info on paper ,,. if not it might still be in his head .. as a lot of duplexers where his designs Rick On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:46 PM, cruizzer77atlant...@gmx.ch wrote: That's what I did first but they

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: An advocate for a little audio compression

2009-08-10 Thread Rev. Robert P. Chrysafis
is a desktrac repeater capable of audio compression? - Original Message - From: Laryn Lohman lar...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: An advocate for a little audio compression Nate, your comments

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread no6b
At 8/10/2009 09:07, you wrote: Was just curious as to if folks have gotten Notch cavities to work ok with a 600khz split. Have 4 in Rx leg 4 in TX leg. According to the analyzer, each bank has a 90dB notch. The big question is, what is the loss 600 kHz away from the notch? There are some

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread no6b
At 8/10/2009 10:21, you wrote: Hi Dcflu7x, It's a DB products SP-1894. Can't get any info on it from anywhere. Each of the 8 cans have the approx dimensions of 5 x 21. A single screw-type shaft in the center, and one SO-239 sticking out of the top of the can. No variable caps, or anything else

[Repeater-Builder] Update, Sinclair Q-202G (frankenstien series)

2009-08-10 Thread NORM KNAPP
I talked to the guy that obtained the duplxers for our club and he confirmed my belief. Those 4 cans began life as 4 separate BpBr filters used on some offshore communications, possibly mobile telephone or phone patch. He was not certain. Anyway the high pass side worked great out of the box so

RE: [Repeater-Builder] An advocate for a little audio compression

2009-08-10 Thread Eric Lemmon
It's funny- on the most-used local 2m repeater, we don't have a problem with the majority of users, whose voice levels are fine. I think compression is necessary to cut back on a few users who 1) practically shout into the mike, or 2) have bumped up the deviation on their radios because they

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Update, Sinclair Q-202G (Frankenstein series)

2009-08-10 Thread Eric Lemmon
Norm, I'm glad that you're getting that duplexer working. But, I am curious about those parallel capacitors. None of the factory-tuned Sinclair Q-202G duplexers I've seen had any capacitor in parallel with the Johanson tuning capacitors- even those made for the 2m band. The loop assemblies for

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Notch Cavities + 600KHz Repeater = Work?

2009-08-10 Thread tahrens301
Hi Bob, I was pretty curious about it as well, especially in the 'early days' of this project. Nobody seemed to know much about the stubs. If you are looking at the spec. analyzer trk gen, you see the notch. The left side goes down deep, then comes up on the right side of the notch. But,