[Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Vernon Densler
Here is my setup. I have a MastrII mobile which was converted a long time ago. I was having trouble with my controller a while back and went with Echostation. As far as I know everything was working fine for a while then over the past few weeks I started having this strange problem. After

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Joe
Are you experiencing the exactly same problem with Echostation as you had with the old controller? If so, it's probably something wrong in the MastrII radio. I would troubleshoot this by taking the covers off of everything so that I can access several points in the transmit audio chain. I'd

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Vernon Densler
The old controller was actually having problems opening up when the radio went into receive. So it's a bit different. I am trying to get my hands on another controller to see if that helps. Also may try putting the old controller back in to see if it starts working any better. -Original

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Doug Bade
Mastr II/ Exec II transmitters can have ~5vdc on mic high, this is the bias for the amplifier in a normal microphone. If you do not have a capacitor in series to the computer interface or the computer interface has a polarized cap that is in the wrong direction, strange things like this can

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Vernon Densler
Sure don't have that cap on there and on my radio it's 9.7v on that mic line. Trying a blocking cap now to see if it fixes the issue. I will keep you posted. Thanks, Vern KI4ONW From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Bade

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
If you are not using a local microphone (I don't) my solution is to simply remove the bias to mic high and forget messing with a cap. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Vernon Densler To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:46 AM

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Vernon Densler
No joy. It's still dropping out the audio. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Bade Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:53 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem Mastr II/

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Vernon Densler
Where might I find that bias line? Thanks, Vern KI4ONW From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor and MSR-2000 CTCSS PL Module Stories

2009-10-06 Thread skipp025
Re: Micor and MSR-2000 CTCSS PL Module Stories The only Micor to MSR-2000 equivalent Modules I've confirmed is the Squelch Gate Module. Keeping in mind the Module End Connector needs to be changed. I have not compared the Decoder Modules and I don't see a mention of the rare Encoder

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
What radio? Mastr II mobile? Mastr II station? Hopefully I can find my manual, otherwise I'll need to look online. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Vernon Densler To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:28 AM Subject: RE:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Eric Lowell
I have seen a bad deviation pot cause the sort of problem you describe.  Eric Lowell Eastern Maine Electronics Inc. 48 Loon Road Wesley ME 04686 eme@starband.net www.satnetmaine.com 207-210-7469 --- On Tue, 10/6/09, Vernon Densler m...@highwayusa.com wrote: From: Vernon Densler

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
There could be an electrolytic or tantalum cap in series that has already failed. Check for that. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Vernon Densler To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread de W5DK
You said it was a mastrII, there's a resistor on the exciter that connects the 10v line to the MIC HI if my memory is correct. If you haven't already, you might adjust the exciter modulation pot back n forth as somebody mentioned. Don Kirchner W5DK From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] Wanted: GE Versatone Network for 82.5

2009-10-06 Thread w6jll
Looking for a (white) GE Versatone Network for MII/MVP on 82.5. If you have one to sell please contact me either via the group or directly at w6...@scdxc.org. Thanks Fred

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Vernon Densler
Mastr II Mobile. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:34 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem What radio? Mastr II mobile? Mastr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
On the exciter, remove R103 which connects to pin 11 on the audio chip. http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-4560b.pdf Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Vernon Densler To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:28 AM

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread Douglas
Let me tell you a little story about this kind of problem. I had a similar situation on a VHF mastr II repeater where a signal sounded great one time and noisy the next. The problem turned out to be a hairline crack in a solder pad that was used to bridge two circuit boards and the output

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
John - A word of caution may be in order since you are dealing with a club. These days, the typical ham doesn't begin to comprehend the complexity of a repeater system. To many, one simply needs to go out a purchase new equipment, plug it all together, and it runs. Wrong! Don't let your club

[Repeater-Builder] N3SDO antennas

2009-10-06 Thread John Sehring
You mentioned building a colinear antenna for 6 m(?) from ex-11m antenna similar to a Diamond. Details, please? --John WB0EQ

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Vernon Densler
When I cut R103 I lost all of the audio. The voltage did go down on the audio line though. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread DCFluX
Wouldn't C104 need to be removed as well? On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Vernon Densler m...@highwayusa.com wrote: When I cut R103 I lost all of the audio. The voltage did go down on the audio line though. *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Probably. Maybe it's loading down the input. Chuck - Original Message - From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem Wouldn't C104 need to be removed as well? On Tue, Oct 6,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Vernon Densler
It's still a little early to claim victory but the audio has been solid for about an hour now. What changed? Moved the modulation pot a bit. I will update again later today and we will see if it says solid. Thanks, Vern KI4ONW From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Someone else suggested moving the pot. Hit it with some cleaner and work it back and forth. Then get a replacement ordered from Mouser, or wherever. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Vernon Densler To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009

[Repeater-Builder] FS (2) Micro Concepts RC 100 repeater controllers

2009-10-06 Thread Matt Harker
I have 2 of the Micro Concepts RC 100 repeater controllers for sale if anyone is interested.  Both work and I have all the documentation for them.  $100 each + shipping. Also FS is a Selectone ST 180 shared repeater panel with 2 tones installed (CTCSS only); available for the cost of shipping

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread W3ML
Doug, Thanks for the story. This next weekend I will go over the inside with a fine tooth comb and see if I can find any cracks or bad solder joints. My brain is going to but not just from this project. 73 John --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Douglas dougd...@... wrote: Let me

[Repeater-Builder] Help IDing a circulator

2009-10-06 Thread Ken Arck
I don't recognize the logo. http://www.ah6le.net/circulator.jpg Obviously it's a 2 stage one and the label says it's a Model CD-460S with tuned-to freq. of 462.975 mHz. I'm after some spec's on the thing. Ken --

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread W3ML
Well Chuck, there will be no new radio unless I buy it out of my pocket and that won't happen as I need a new rotor. This club has no money. I was able to get a grant for emergency communications and that is how I ended up with the stuff we have now. My big problem seems to be that I took this

RE: [Repeater-Builder] FS (2) Micro Concepts RC 100 repeater controllers

2009-10-06 Thread Chris Curtis
I'd like the panel! Chris Kb0wlf From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Harker Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 3:54 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS (2) Micro Concepts RC 100 repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread Eric Lowell
Your antenna needs to come down and be gone over before you buy anything new. Those G7s will get bad connections in them that act like diodes and rectify all kinds of crud to desense your otherwise good system. I understand that there is a document on the RB site about refurbing that antenna.

[Repeater-Builder] Re:N3SDO antennas / 6m collinear / Jpole

2009-10-06 Thread Ed Bathgate
Im confused on the J-Pole calculations. I calculate mine was 3/4 y = 13.36' (About 14 feet, tip to mast) Phasing U = 4.45 feet, with a 8.91 foot stinger off one leg of the U. John, you wanted to know what I built, best from memory 10 years ago, with fresh calculations. What I made is a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Help IDing a circulator

2009-10-06 Thread rfburnz
RJ Communications made these, a small Phoenix company (of the three companies that made ferrite circulators in Phoenix: RJ, Celwave and EMR, RJ is the most obscure, and I believe they are no longer in business. The RJ design is identical to Celwave circulators. The one pictured is a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] FS (2) Micro Concepts RC 100 repeater controllers

2009-10-06 Thread Robert Boles
I will take the selectone   Bob ki6rkq --- On Tue, 10/6/09, Chris Curtis demo...@rollanet.org wrote: From: Chris Curtis demo...@rollanet.org Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FS (2) Micro Concepts RC 100 repeater controllers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009,

[Repeater-Builder] TKR-850 final

2009-10-06 Thread rickcdll
In need of a final board for the TKR-850. Have called everyone. Nobody has it in stock. Mine is a X45-36310. Am told the replacement is X45-374-10 but doesnt come with the FET's and a few other parts. Anyone have or know where I can get this board and parts quickey? Have a Ham repeater going

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Suitcase repeater [1 Attachment]

2009-10-06 Thread doug
Hi Dave, Just curious about what you are asking for your suitcase. 73, Doug Obenchain, W9NWN Trustee, Kokomo Repeater Club Kokomo, IN. Original Message Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Suitcase repeater From: David Epley dep...@starband.net Date: Mon, October 05, 2009

RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-850 final

2009-10-06 Thread k7pfj
Rick, If your repeater is a version 1.0 it is covered under the recall service bulletin they came out several years back. All you would have to do is take it to a Kenwood service shop and they could fix it or send it to Kenwood and they will fix it as well. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Suitcase repeater

2009-10-06 Thread David Epley
I am asking 400 for it. David Epley, N9CZV Randolph County Emergency Coordinator 4866N 400E Winchester, Indiana 47394 Cell765.546.2592 n9...@arrl.net

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help IDing a circulator

2009-10-06 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:08 PM 10/6/2009, rfburnz wrote: RJ Communications made these, a small Phoenix company (of the three companies that made ferrite circulators in Phoenix: RJ, Celwave and EMR, RJ is the most obscure, and I believe they are no longer in business. The RJ design is identical to Celwave

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Strange Problem

2009-10-06 Thread Vernon Densler
So it looks like Eric called it right. It’s been stable since about 2:00pm. Vern KI4ONW From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lowell Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:35 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE:

[Repeater-Builder] Wattmeter Panel

2009-10-06 Thread Ralph S. Turk
Hi All Does anyone have the schematic etc for a Circle M TRN 5623 and the 5623A Wattmeter Panel Looked in RB and did not see anything. Ralph, W7HSG

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: GE Versatone Network for 82.5

2009-10-06 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
got 1 82.5 $6 post included Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM  Radio    If its in stock...we've got it! P O Box 31353 Chicago, IL 60631-0353 773.631.5130  fax 773.775.8096    web http://www.mdmradio.com  email -   mdmra...@yahoo.com  DIRECT ALL EMAIL --- On Tue, 10/6/09, w6jll

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread W3ML
Thanks Eric I read that document that you speak of. We cleaned it , re-fiber-glassed some of it and then sprayed it with polyurethane finish and screwed the sections so they would not move even though they had clamps on them. But, like you I think with it being used there may be a problem

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wattmeter Panel [1 Attachment]

2009-10-06 Thread Joe
This doc mentions the TRN5623A, it may be helpful? 73, Joe, K1ike Ralph S. Turk wrote: Hi All Does anyone have the schematic etc for a Circle M TRN 5623 and the 5623A Wattmeter Panel

[Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-850 final

2009-10-06 Thread rickcdll
Thank you Mike, I didn't know that. It is version 1. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, k7...@... wrote: Rick, If your repeater is a version 1.0 it is covered under the recall service bulletin they came out several years back. All you would have to do is take it to a Kenwood service

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 6-m Very Heavy Duty Antenna For Repeater Use

2009-10-06 Thread Daniel Ransom
Check the Kreco line of antennas. They have a 6-m coaxial dipole that should perform as well as or slightly better into the valleys than the j-pole antenna. You have two options the CO-41A or the CO-41H, depending upon your bank account and the weather severity of your site. The shunt feed

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Tue, 10/6/09, W3ML w...@arrl.net wrote: From: W3ML w...@arrl.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 5:36 PM Well Chuck, there will be no new As I have said before

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help IDing a circulator

2009-10-06 Thread no6b
At 10/6/2009 15:46, you wrote: ---Thanks for the info! And while the one I have IS tunable (each stage has a Johanson type trimmer for the pass and one for the load port) Are you sure you didn't miss a 3rd trimmer? Every tunable isolator I have has 3 adjustments per stage, one for each port.