[Repeater-Builder] Where do the temp comp resistors from ICM go?

2010-08-29 Thread Tony KT9AC
Sorry to ask a dumb question, but I have some Maxar 50 UHF radios apart that I'm installing crystals from International, and they included what looks like 1% (light green) resistors. I can't see in the Moto manual where they would go since Moto would recommend using their parts. Just need a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Where do the temp comp resistors from ICM go?

2010-08-29 Thread Tony KT9AC
%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony KT9AC Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:56 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Where do the temp comp

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Polyphaser Question

2010-08-18 Thread Tony KT9AC
Remember the objective is not to take the brunt of a lightning strike, but to drain off any static that would attract that strike. Lightning is just a spark looking to close the gap, and if your antenna is closer to DC ground, it will find something closer to its potential (i.e. static

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recording of mysterious noise

2010-06-29 Thread Tony KT9AC
Try dropping PL on the tail. Could be a signal mixing with your repeater offset and allowing your PL to keep your repeater receiver open. For example: 442.000 transmit with 100Hz PL + 5Mhz signal = 447.000 with 100Hz PL. Doesn't matter if you use PL or DPL - it still loops back in, and ham or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola radios and Zetron 37 controller

2010-06-22 Thread Tony KT9AC
I think you mean M44GMC29C3AA's - tons for sale on eBay typically around $50 each. M = mobile 4 = 25-40W (20% duty cycle) 4 = 438-470 Mhz GMC = this series (actually German Maxtrac is where these came from) 2 = wideband deviation (5Khz, where a 0 would be 2.5Khz narrowband - not switchable, one

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola radios and Zetron 37 controller - additional

2010-06-22 Thread Tony KT9AC
Sorry, and apologies for the extra email, just wanted the info to be complete. The 3 near the end is the range - 1=403-433, 2=not used, 3=438-470, 4=470-490, 5=490-512 Awesome radios. On 06/22/2010 09:59 AM, Tony KT9AC wrote: I think you mean M44GMC29C3AA's - tons for sale on eBay

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help Needed (Guidance and advice) tuning a DB Products Duplexer

2010-05-29 Thread Tony KT9AC
All is not lost Josh - I'm running Motorola T1507 which are 4-can pass-only cavities on my Micor. Actually pass-only are better for commercial sites since they will help keep out a lot of intermod on either side of how they are tuned. Pass-notch on the other hand will pass the tuned

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread Tony KT9AC
Would this still allow the reverse-burst to pass through, or just abruptly cut off? On 05/03/2010 12:14 PM, wd8chl wrote: On 5/3/2010 1:08 PM, Jeff DePolo wrote: I'm guessing I am not the first to want to do this... I want to use a UHF Micor for a link. I want to be able to stop the PL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] IDEA? Re: Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread Tony KT9AC
Jeff, Good explanation, especially the fluttery/noisy user signal. Would this general theory apply for factory Micor DPL boards as well? I might run my repeater using DPL since that is what I have available and its working fine. Tony On 05/03/2010 02:36 PM, Jeff DePolo wrote: I don't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Tony KT9AC
Good question Paul. Remember the Mitrek RF decks are almost the same used in the MSR2000 repeater, and with their tuned helical front end make great receivers. For the transmitter however, I would not run it on its own. Also reducing the power output below 50-66% of rating might cause

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater crystals available

2010-04-17 Thread Tony KT9AC
I'll take the Micor elements. PM sent to Terry (hope it didn't get caught in a spam filter...) On 04/17/2010 02:58 PM, terry_wx3m wrote: I recently took 2 UHF machines off the air. I have for a Mastr II 1 5C on 442.050 and 1 EC on 447.050. These were custon built by Bomar crystal at a cost

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Someone want to spot me?

2010-04-01 Thread KT9AC
Ken, If your T1500 cavity is the loop type such that the SO239's are closer to the tuning screw, you can set the pass to 434.xxx and the reject to 442.675, but might have to move the stationary knob to the outer position to get greater than a 5Mhz split. Rejecting that way is only effective

Re: [Repeater-Builder] building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread KT9AC
Brian, I agree with Steve, but as a side note if you can run the mobiles at their lowest rated *power* and use an external PA and fans, it should be ok. Rated power for example means a 10-25W model run at 10W (since below that it might induce problems). I have two Motorola GM300 1-10W radios

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-11 Thread KT9AC
Time to start taking the lead and develop something!! http://developer.motorola.com/products/twowayradios/ Nate Duehr wrote: I talked to an owner of a system last night and he confirmed that user ID's are 8 digit, as are talk groups. There are some numbers that are reserved for all-call

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HAM Mototrbo Systems

2010-03-11 Thread KT9AC
Thanks for the explanation Nate. Reminds me of Smartnet II simulcast systems locally (one TG brings up all five sites for example). Tony Nate Duehr wrote: Each repeater handles two 6.25 KHz channels simultaneously, if that's what you mean...? But both channels are continuously received by

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-24 Thread KT9AC
If it was just audio then there would be no feedback of the PL/DPL tones, keeping the repeater locked up. Good advice though. Jeff DePolo wrote: On 2/23/2010 3:11 PM, Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX wrote: Is it possible the AM signal is getting into an audio stage instead of the receiver

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread KT9AC
. Make certain which station the broadcast audio is coming from and give the station engineer a friendly call, may reveal some info to help your issue. Chris GMRS Inc. --- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Tony KT9AC kt...@... wrote: Hi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread KT9AC
If you wouldn't mind...that would be interesting to see how it works. DCFluX wrote: How about 1.25 MHz RF coming down the outer jacket of the UHF antenna and into the ground of the system? You have about 200 ft or so of coax? Try a mag mount antenna temporarily. Not really sure how you'd

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread KT9AC
: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KT9AC Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 09:02 AM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com mailto:Repeater-Builder

[Repeater-Builder] Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-21 Thread Tony KT9AC
Hi everyone, A while ago I was troubleshooting a bad feedback or growl problem that was impacting a UHF repeater, of which the short term workaround was to not encode TX PL (PL or DPL would keep it locked until the signal dropped enough or timed out). In doing some more research, I found a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-21 Thread Tony KT9AC
Thanks Jeff. The AM station has the same power both day and night, just goes from 2 towers to 4 to change the pattern. Rusty bolt or fence line etc seems the most likely. The problem does seem to disappear when its raining out, which helps verify this theory. It might be a needle in a haystack

Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 48b

2010-01-29 Thread Tony KT9AC
Check and see if the DPL is either being presented or programmed as inverted. My TP-38 panel is opposite of what I tell it to do, even though PL's always work. On 1/29/2010 3:56 PM, plaimann wrote: i have a zetron 48b controller , running 2 motorola vhf sm50 mobiles via the acdcessory

[Repeater-Builder] Comm-Spec TP38 with DPL option

2010-01-14 Thread Tony KT9AC
Hi Everyone, Picked up a nice Comm-Spec TP-38 and it appears to have the DCTCSS (DPL) board and updated firmware. I don't have any documentation on it, nor can I find anything on the Repeater Builder site. I might contact Comm-Spec for a better manual if available since the scanned versions

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Comm-Spec TP38 with DPL option

2010-01-14 Thread Tony KT9AC
with a bit of time and work on my end. s. Tony KT9AC kt...@... wrote: Hi Everyone, Picked up a nice Comm-Spec TP-38 and it appears to have the DCTCSS (DPL) board and updated firmware. I don't have any documentation on it, nor can I find anything on the Repeater Builder site. I might

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rolling Pipe Sound

2009-12-07 Thread Tony KT9AC
. Tony, KT9AC offtracks1 wrote: Thanks for all the post and for the web site and group. It's been very helpful to me as I have been setting up my system. My repeater system is a Kenwood TKR-750 K2, Telwave TPRD-1556 duplexer set (6 cavities), A Telwave Isolator on the PA. Running 1/2 Heilax

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Rolling Pipe Sound

2009-12-07 Thread Tony KT9AC
%40yahoogroups.com, Tony KT9AC kt...@... wrote: Scott, You are not alone in this!! I too have been fighting a problem almost exactly like this - I've tried different PL tones on RX and TX and that seemed to keep it from self-oscillating. Seems to happen more when the weather is dry

[Repeater-Builder] Has anyone measured out-of-band rejection for a duplexer?

2009-11-23 Thread Tony KT9AC
Hi Everyone, Without the benefit of a spectrum analyzer, I would like to find out how much rejection of out-of-band signals can be expected from a typical UHF duplexer. Have a MSF5000 on 452 that works fine with the T4084 duplexers (1500 style), but have a lot of VHF data and FM broadcast hash

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Has anyone measured out-of-band rejection for a duplexer?

2009-11-23 Thread Tony KT9AC
- buil...@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Tony KT9AC Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:36 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Has anyone measured out-of-band rejection for a duplexer? Hi Everyone, Without the benefit of a spectrum analyzer, I would

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help Identifying UHF Duplexer

2009-10-23 Thread Tony KT9AC
Motorola T1504. Just tuned one last weekend and average 81dbm reject with probably 0.1uV pass loss. Good for 250W and 406-512. Lots of good documentation on the Repeater-Builder page: http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/t1500.html Good Luck. Bought my last set for around $140. Tony

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxtrac with no Tx PL

2009-10-05 Thread Tony KT9AC
Accessory plug, there is an option to disable TX PL with a jumper or RSS option. f...@fitzharris.com wrote: Hi All, I have a Maxtrac with no Tx PL. I've checked the programming several times, even cloned another radio. I've tried both TPL and DPL. I've checked the Tx output on the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrow(er) band FM

2009-10-04 Thread Tony KT9AC
I have a GM300 narrowband mobile (M34GMC00D3A), how do I know when its programmed to do 12.5Khz? There is nothing in RSS to select, where the MTS2000 CPS allows unique modes for narrowband. Thanks, Tony Cort Buffington wrote: I said I'd report back XYL and I were out with the EX500s

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ATSC pilot frequencies for Sig.Gen. alignment

2009-09-09 Thread Tony KT9AC
What about a local Trunked Simulcast system for a rough reference? They should be GPS aligned somehow. Al Wolfe wrote: Pity that the guy selling all this stuff is in China. I think I'll pass. Al, k9si Re: ATSC pilot frequencies for sig. gen. alignment Posted by: wb6ymh

[Repeater-Builder] WTB: MSF5000 110W UHF Range 2 PA - TTE1754A

2009-09-04 Thread Tony KT9AC
Good Morning, I am looking to upgrade my MSF5000 from a 40W to 110W UHF Range 2 (450-470). Would anyone have one available for sale or know where I can find one? Probably a TTE1754A from what I've been reading. Thanks, Tony, KT9AC

[Repeater-Builder] WTB: MSF5000 110W UHF Range 2 PA - TLE2512A - Corrected

2009-09-04 Thread Tony KT9AC
Sorry, listed the wrong assembly. If anyone has one for sale or trade please let me know. Tony Tony KT9AC wrote: Good Morning, I am looking to upgrade my MSF5000 from a 40W to 110W UHF Range 2 (450-470). Would anyone have one available for sale or know where I can find one? Probably

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrow Banding and VHF Low Band

2009-09-02 Thread Tony KT9AC
Does anyone know if a MSF5000 converted to narrowband operation would be legal under Part 90 after 2013? Tony Gary wrote: Don't know where you got the below 512Mhz comment from (except perhaps a sloppy comment in a recent article printed in Urgent Communications) but here's what the R O

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-09-01 Thread Tony KT9AC
Is it ok to use Silver PL259's and nickel reducers (UG176)? Thanks to everyone on their input. Trying to connect a MSR2000 and T4084 duplexer set (both UHF connectors). Tony Chuck Kelsey wrote: I solder the reducer onto the heliax shield, then screw it in to the PL259 and finish the

[Repeater-Builder] UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread Tony KT9AC
Hello Everyone, I need to make some short jumpers UHF-male to UHF-male and have a length of 1/2 Andrew Superflex on order (actually eBay). Can I use regular silver-teflon PL259's with this cable, similar to how 1/4 superflex is used with the reducer? I can't find UHF Male connectors for 1/2

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Connectors for 1/2 Andrew Superflex

2009-08-31 Thread Tony KT9AC
. Good Luck JIM KA2AJH From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony KT9AC Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:51 PM To: Repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] replacing PA 30w by 100w VHF - MSR2000

2009-08-25 Thread Tony KT9AC
Francois, I have a 100W MSR2000 UHF and all the adjustments are in the PA itself (intermittent unit). 400mW out of the exciter drives it, with no feedback. My suggestion would be to look at the schematic and rig up your own feedback circuit with a variable resistor. I'm not familiar with the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] isolation

2009-08-22 Thread Tony KT9AC
Other than ordering the software, is there an old-school formula that can be used for this? I been using the decibel-wheel to convert from microvolts to dbm. NORM KNAPP wrote: H How about a mastr ii pll Vhf 147.225/147.825 with db224a @ 270' with 300' ldf7-50a and 110watts. I am

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer tuning question w/service monitor

2009-08-03 Thread Tony KT9AC
Hi Everyone, I was helping a friend tune a Motorola T1502 duplexer yesterday, and got the following readings using a service monitor and GM300 receiver. I just want to confirm that what I did looks reasonable as I did tweak one of the band-reject loops since observing a low reading. The

[Repeater-Builder] Service Monitor Question

2009-07-13 Thread Tony KT9AC
Hi Everyone, I'm thinking about buying a used service monitor for various projects, and I've come across a few units that look good (from a price point) but I can't find any data on them. 1) Racal Dana 6113G Digital Radio Test Set Service Monitor 2) Cushman CE-4000 3) HP 8924C 4) Ramsey COM3

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile antenna mounting options - old reference

2009-07-06 Thread Tony KT9AC
Funny, I was just looking at this on Friday! Makes my 1/4 trunk-mount seem less effective! http://www.larsen-antennas.com/docfiles/ASB9/Mobile/MobileSeriesDesignations.pdf Daron Wilson wrote: There was an awesome pictorial in the back of some two way manual, I'm thinking back to the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Quantar band limits

2009-07-02 Thread Tony KT9AC
Since you're going above frequency specs, is the Quantar anything like a MSF5000 where you need to adjust a VCO to cover the new range? Greg wrote: Hi everyone, I have a Motorola Quantar on the bench at the moment and I am having a slight issue with the programming of the unit. I have