Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-18 Thread Paul Plack
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further Seriously, some people need to read the original message before replying. The original complaint was running out of tunning range on the piston trimmer in the channel element

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-18 Thread DCFluX
Yeah, I could see that. He did not specify the crystal manufacture, plus the factory compensated the element to what crystal was originally in it. I just got some Bomar crystals (Not my choice) for the clubs UHF Micor. The TX was off 14 to 39 kHz, Had to add a 10pF cap to get the trimmer in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-18 Thread Paul Plack
- From: DCFluX To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:20 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further I just got some Bomar crystals (Not my choice) for the clubs UHF Micor. The TX was off 14 to 39 kHz, Had to add a 10pF cap

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-18 Thread John J. Riddell
) - Original Message - From: Paul Plack To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:41 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further There used to be a great little company in the Toronto area called Lesmith that did a nice job

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-18 Thread Jeff DePolo
I just got some Bomar crystals (Not my choice) for the clubs UHF Micor. The TX was off 14 to 39 kHz, Had to add a 10pF cap to get the trimmer in the center range. Strangely the RX was fine. That's probably not indicitive of Bomar making a bad rock; you almost always have to change out the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-17 Thread ka9qjg
You can do it but depending on the quality of the Parts you use it will drift. When You have it on the test bench and add caps Etc.. and it reads right on Freq , unless it is going to be within a few deg it will drift and When transmitting things will heat up and it will drift . I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-17 Thread Joe
Was the crystal that you got for 146.06RX made for a MASRTII radio, or something else? The cut can be different for different radio manufacturers. I have purchased only crystals for MASTRII and recrystalled my ICOMs with good luck. If I need to net them on frequency I use capacitors from the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-17 Thread Doug Bade
Jared; You need to warp 4khz not 400hz... If they were made up for 146.01 I would assume that they can do that. So now we need to look at why they are not... 10v reg power supply needs to be 10v +/- .1-.2v . The temp comp line to the EC needs to be driven to something by a 5ppm or eq channel

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-17 Thread Paul Plack
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further Hey folks, I'm working on a GE Mastr II high band repeater. Someone gave me some crystals that were made up for 146.010 RX. I installed one in an EC ICOM and the best I can

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-17 Thread DCFluX
Seriously, some people need to read the original message before replying. The original complaint was running out of tunning range on the piston trimmer in the channel element while trying to net the crystal on frequency. Not rubbering the crystal to another channel or Nuclear warfare on an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-17 Thread no6b
At 2/17/2010 16:33, you wrote: Also I should mention that the receiver should be set by looking at the LO frequency on either a service monitor or a frequency counter of known precision, Tuning it until it sounds best is not the way to go. The LO frequency for the MASTR-II VHF will be either +

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-17 Thread Kevin Custer
Doug wrote: Jared; You need to warp 4khz not 400hz... If they were made up for 146.01 I would assume that they can do that. Jared wrote: I just need the crystal to go up a hair more (400 Hz on the crystal freq). In Jared's defense, he did say on the crystal frequency He needs

[Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-16 Thread KE4ZDG
Hey folks, I'm working on a GE Mastr II high band repeater. Someone gave me some crystals that were made up for 146.010 RX. I installed one in an EC ICOM and the best I can adjust for is 146.0064, which sounds really scratchy when I inject a 3k deviation signal on 146.010. When I tune the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-16 Thread Nate Duehr
On Feb 16, 2010, at 9:57 PM, KE4ZDG wrote: Hey folks, I'm working on a GE Mastr II high band repeater. Someone gave me some crystals that were made up for 146.010 RX. I installed one in an EC ICOM and the best I can adjust for is 146.0064, which sounds really scratchy when I inject a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bend an ICOM a little further

2010-02-16 Thread DCFluX
I think you are referring to not being able to net the rocks to the correct frequency in your channel element. This is usually due to not enough or too much capacitance in the oscillator circuit. Good crystal manufacturers will supply the mid range temperature compensation capacitor with their