Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-22 Thread Jeff Condit
The power factor case is semantically different than the SWR case in the following way: With SWR, energy is flowing in both directions at near the speed of light. If the reflected signal is the exact same frequency as the forward signal (as in the case where it is a reflection of a signal at a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-20 Thread Nigel Johnson
Very interesting theory. I am teaching SWR at present to my third year college students. Could be a good discussion point since they have already studied power factor. However, SWR can exist with a purely resistive mismatched load, so it needs a bit of modification to take all into account. 73

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-20 Thread w5zit
Good point Nigel. Back in the '60s I designed a video distribution amplifier for receiver video to tape recorders, O scopes and the like and I matched the input impedance to prevent reflections on the video line from distorting the signal. The output impedance of my amplifier was as low as I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-20 Thread Gary Schafer
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nigel Johnson Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:26 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR? Very interesting theory. I am teaching SWR at present to my third year college

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-19 Thread Bob Witte K0NR
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, kb9bpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I'm way more into RF than industrial power distribution, I've always been able to think of power factor on the electrical power grid in terms similar to antenna system reflections, which are commonly measured in

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-18 Thread skipp025
Normally all this is taken into the design and operation of the distribution grid. It's quite possible to have generation plants simply coast portions or all of their equipment on the grid as correction factor in hydro operation sometimes known as motoring the prime mover. In the very

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-18 Thread Gary Glaenzer
also known as 'rotary condenser' operation Gary - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR? Normally all this is taken

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-17 Thread Laryn Lohman
To answer the question, I don't. Look at it this way. The AC supply to your house, for example, is a low impedance; it can supply hundreds of amps (the transmitter). The 100 watt lamp (antenna/load) in your house is a relatively high impedance compared to the supply. There is no impedance