I think there are advantage to all metal "plumber's delight" antennas for VHF & 
UHF.  I would go for an all copper folded dipole.  Split the "far end" dipole 
element & feed it there using a balun made using a 1/2-wavelength piece of 
coax; run the coax feedline in from the grouinded antenna clamp.  It'll give 
4:1 Z transform but then you need to fiddle with the diameters of the dipole 
elements & their spacing to get 200 ohms feedpoint Z.  Then whole thing will be 
at DC ground & vy sturdy & broadbanded too, esp. if you use thick (say, 3/4") 
elements.

Cheap too. I'd model it carefully using Eznec before-hand, get it maybe a bit 
long so you can cut it down when built (can't so easily _add_ pipe!) to get to 
resonance.  Also, don't use a ruler to measure out the 1/2-wave piece of coax.  
Measure it out using an RF bridge or SWR "analyzer", always more accurate.

--John

--- On Sat, 8/29/09, wb8vlc <mas...@cableone.net> wrote:

From: wb8vlc <mas...@cableone.net>
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2M Vertical Dipoles
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 9:39 PM






 




    
                  I found some Plans on this groups page for a home made 4 pole 
array

http://forums. radioreference. com/antennas- coax-forum/ 109144-4- 
bay-vhf-dipole- array-project. html



scroll down a few responses and download the PDF document, I'm building one at 
this time.



I just started to look at the spacings in EZNEC and it looks nice.



Mike



--- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com, Eric Grabowski <ejgrabowski@ ...> 
wrote:

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> I have used schedule 40 PVC for several antennas from HF thru 440 MHz without 
> a problem. It does have a dielectric effect however that you must take into 
> account.

> 

> There is another plastic pipe called CPVC that does absorb RF at the higher 
> frequencies. You don't want to use that.

> 

> To make sure your plastic pipe will work ok, do the microwave test. Put a 
> short length of the plastic pipe in a microwave along with a coffee mug 
> filled with water. Run the microwave for a while. Then see if the plastic 
> gets hot. If it does, you don't want to use it for RF.

> 

> 73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ

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> --- On Wed, 8/12/09, AJ <aj.grantham@ ...> wrote:

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> From: AJ <aj.grantham@ ...>

> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2M Vertical Dipoles

> To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 5:05 AM

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>                   Does really PVC absorb or RF or just act as a dielectric?

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> The reason I ask is I'm looking at encasing an antenna project for the sake 
> of weatherproofing and PVC would fit the bill rather easily.

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> 73,

> AJ, K6LOR

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> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:49 AM, AA8K73 GMail <aa8...@gmail. com> wrote:

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> AJ, if you replace the steel mast with a fiberglass one,

> won't you still have the metallic feed line there?

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> Doesn't PVC absorb RF?

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> 73,

> Mike 

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> On this same topic of the mast-less Antennex/Laird dipole arrays, has anyone 
> attempted to top mount these from a fiberglass mast to minimize interaction 
> with the normal steel pole? I have quite a few surplus fiberglass poles left 
> that would likely work, even for side mounting on 1/2 wave spacing from the 
> tower...

> 

>  On that same note, does anyone have construction plans for a dipole array 
> (not necessarily folded dipoles)? I remember seeing a set of plans somewhere 
> quite a while ago - we're thinking of constructing one but encasing the 
> dipoles in fiberglass or PVC to try to protect from the weather and debris at 
> our site (top of a large farm field)...

> 

>  73,

> AJ, K6LOR

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