Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Bob Dengler
At 12/30/2004 03:39 PM, you wrote: Is the best way to have a mobile repeater up and running with two mobile radios and a duplexer? Looking for a way to be able to run a couple of repeaters, one VHF, one UHF for a mobile communications van. Can anyone recommend ways to cut down on weight and

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Get a couple of Motorola Maxtracs, an NHRC-2 Controller and you are set. EXCEPT, if it's for Public Safety purposes (Fire, Police) then do not scrimp, especially if lives may depend on this stuff. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Dakota Summerhawk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Steven Passmore
Maybe not the most compact option but you can just use a stereo to mono transformer such as a Speco TSM-30 http://www.lashen.com/vendors/CSISpeco/Speakers/Transformers.asp Steve P. - Original Message - From: DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off topic part 95 DCS on GMRS

2004-12-31 Thread Johnny
I agree that re-education of some FCC employees is needed. However, I think it would be nice if the FCC had at least 2 or 3 knowledgable people, that knew what they were doing and only worked with Part 95 stuff. Johnny corwinmoore wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Barry

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread kf4vgx
I use EchoStation as a repeater, Fast setup for Emergency use or just in case you need a Repeater or backup. I started using it while my Repeater was under repairs, liked its range and audio better so I use it full time now. My Repeater is the backup for Echostation now. How ever I do have it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off topic part 95 DCS on GMRS

2004-12-31 Thread Karl Bullock
I'd prefer mandatory retirement. I don't know that Powell can be re-educated. He's screwed up everything he touched since coming to the FCC. Why should BPL be any different :( Karl, WA5TMC Steve Grantham wrote: Can we solicit the mandatory re-education of Chairman Powell, as he has been

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Go over to your local car stereo shop - the place where they sell those 500w amps and build the latest and greatest boogie buggys or thump trucks - and get a pair of speaker isolator transformers. They may not call them that, but picture a 8 ohm in / 8 ohm out transformer about the size of a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread DCFluX
I wouldn't trust the local stereo shops as far as I could throw them. Example: I saw a certified installer cut 8 inches of zip cord off of the reel Then he split it into 2 wires and then butt spliced the wires back to the original reel of wire! I didn't even bother to make him feel like a dumb

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Neil McKie
I think the Motorola Mitrek Consolette Base Station has a one to one transformer in it. If you need I can look up the part number. Neil - WA6KLA DCFluX wrote: I wouldn't trust the local stereo shops as far as I could throw them. Example: I saw a certified installer cut 8

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I've always done it differently. I take a 5 watt resistor, maybe around 15 ohms, across the speaker leads, then come off the high side through a 2-5K resistor then into a little external audio amp. You can pick up a little audio amp kit for less than $10. Drive the single speaker with that.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread mch
Use portables... Joe M. Dakota Summerhawk wrote: Is the best way to have a mobile repeater up and running with two mobile radios and a duplexer? Looking for a way to be able to run a couple of repeaters, one VHF, one UHF for a mobile communications van. Can anyone recommend ways to cut

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Steven Passmore
How much less are you wanting to spend.. I've searched around the net and it's a fairly specialized item. Using 1:1 transformers you'd have to buy 2. Given that, $14 doesn't seem too bad.From looking at the picture it appears the transformer is about 2x1.75x1.5 not counting the mounting

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off topic part 95 DCS on GMRS

2004-12-31 Thread Mark Holman
I think that I should stick to my thinking Have all the FCC Commissioners that are from each level Qualification 1) That they have a Extra Class License. 2) Hold a Degree in Electronics like Broadcasting. 3) Been say 20 Yrs Min. in the feild. 4) Hold a GROL , 1st. Class RT that was converted

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 06:25 PM 12/30/04, you wrote: I wouldn't trust the local stereo shops as far as I could throw them. Example: I saw a certified installer cut 8 inches of zip cord off of the reel Then he split it into 2 wires and then butt spliced the wires back to the original reel of wire! I didn't even

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Outlet for RG214/U

2004-12-31 Thread kc2cjw
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, I remember buying some when I was working a the coast during the 80's. Something like $5 or $6 per foot. --Clipped-- I checked a few sources - BOR (Bust-Out Retail) real Belden Silver Plated RG214

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Neil McKie
Yes, it works really, really well!! I used to use two speakers for four separate radios in my 1961 Dodge Seneca during the mid-sixties. I didn't use the 'big capacitor' either. If one of the radios was not turned on, it worked anyway. I simply 'refuse' to tell you it won't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off topic part 95 DCS on GMRS

2004-12-31 Thread Barry Thompson
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Dakota Summerhawk
I must clarify that these are to be used as HAM radio special event repeaters for a comm van. Full duty use when in service but not used all the time, hence the reason that I need to be able to have some space in the van as it is also going to be command post as well. I need to be able to have

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Mathew Quaife
Look at the mobile repeaters found on ebay. About $800 ball park for them. They would work just fine if you did a split antenna setup, but would be better if duplexers were used, especially running that kind of power. If it is in the ham bands they will work fine, I don't think they are allowed

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread no6b1
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dakota Summerhawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Portables are great but I need the 35W (UHF) and the 50W (VHF) out to assure that the coverage is adequate. Thanks for the suggestion. Dakota The G.E. MVPs will do 30 watts on 2 meters 25 on 440. It'd be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off topic part 95 DCS on GMRS

2004-12-31 Thread mch
And the purpose of your post being? Big deal. You posted my email service's info. OMG! LOL The only purpose I can get from your post is a feeble attempt at providing some kind of 'classified' info (which ANYONE can get, BTW) on the remailer about my email service provider. Perhaps it's because

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Dakota Summerhawk
OK Dick on that note I have to ask a few questions: 1. How hard is it to build a Maxtrac into a repeater? 2. Are Maxtrac rock bound? Was hoping for something for synthesized for easy programming 3. How is the duty cycle for the unit? From what I have seen they are sturdy rigs and can stand up to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Dakota Summerhawk
Portables are great but I need the 35W (UHF) and the 50W (VHF) out to assure that the coverage is adequate. Thanks for the suggestion. Dakota -Original Message- From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 8:13 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Mark Holman
I will say this ... this one Stereo / Trucker shop and a source for older out of catalouge R/S stuff but he rather sell the stereos Illeagle gear , he does not like talking to me when I said I have a Ham license. tells you how many times he figgures the FCC was next in line :-) M. H. -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread mch
Be careful searching for mobile repeaters on eBay. A true LMR Mobile Repeater is a half-duplex unit that attaches to a mobile radio providing crossband coverage out of the car for portables. Not at all what you want. What you might want to look for is a portable repeater. Despite the name, a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread motarolla_doctor
Mr. Dakota, You might want to look here for information on a Maxtrac. Radius, GM3xx, and other Motorola radios used in a portable repeater configuration. Klick on the Products, then Repeater ModuleBTW, the Repeater Module is less than $100 and IS Plug and Play!!!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need a picture

2004-12-31 Thread Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio
you couldn't find one at google images?? i think they even have your picture happy new year mdmEd Folta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALLAnyone have a picture of a Standard Communications model 867 Radio?I am looking for an email-able jpeg etcEd

[Repeater-Builder] Need a picture

2004-12-31 Thread Ed Folta
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL Anyone have a picture of a Standard Communications model 867 Radio? I am looking for an email-able jpeg etc Ed Folta Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread russ
Our mobile repeater was as eazy as pie. We have a Kenwood for two meter, a Maggiore for 222 and a Kenwood for 440. We tie them all together with a Link-Com RLC-3 controler. We use TX/RX dupllexers on each band. Was not that costly and gives very good service. All housed in a nice rack mounted in

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MVP is a good suggestion, but they are a little on the expensive side - especially on UHF. Still, if you can find one, they are good and there is the NHRC/MVP controller. Joe M. Ummm Joe, I have picked up

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Laryn Lohman
Chuck, it must be my raw, unmitigated bidding skill on Ebay. kidding here Actually I guess like you say, a little luck. Have a good New Year, Chuck. Laryn K8TVZ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider yourself lucky. They usually got for

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a 2-Watt MICOR UHF Ham Repeater (came from the factory in the 2-watt version) in service locally. The coverage is excellent. I've cooked a few 2-Meter PA decks over the years, and had to jumper around the PA deck to use just the 400 milliwatt exciter as the transmitter, while the PA deck

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Neil McKie
Larry, I agree with you on the coverage issue. My 2 meter repeater very near you, the PA deck quit several years ago. Ran the repeater on the 400 mw output exciter until we got the PA deck fixed. Like you, by the time the RF got to the antenna, I'd be surprised if there was more

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread skipp025
Depends actually Do you want to just mix the audio, or do you need the power from one or both radios to drive something? For this example, we know both radios have amplifiers with high output power levels (vs small receivers with lm386 type outputs). If you want to use the combined

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Consider yourself lucky. They usually got for much more than that. Chuck WB2EDV Ummm Joe, I have picked up several UHF MVPs on Ebay in the past couple of months. I paid between $7 and $17 each for them (plus shipping of course). Have a great New Year. Laryn K8TVZ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes, they do. I usually sell them for around $75 each. But that's still a tremendous quality radio to make a repeater out of for a price like that. Anyone who can't afford something like that should think seriously about whether or not they want to be in the business of being a repeater owner. LJ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
This is an example of precisely why I utilize medium-gain repeater antennas over their high-gain cousins. In mobile FM service, the user will not see the difference. I save money, they are easier to install, don't have as much wind loading, hold up better mechanically, take up less tower real

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Wade Lake
I have to agree with these guys, I have run on the tripler output on my Micor UHF repeater while making PA repairs. The tripler outputs something like 2 watts and I probably had less than 1 watt at the antenna. The last time I had PA trouble I left it that way for a few months because

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I went and checked for MVP's in closed eBay auctions and found none at all. I check periodically and find them selling for $75-$150 for the UHF ones. VHF high and VHF low are usually much cheaper. Plus shipping, which typically runs another $15-$20. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's typically what I sell them for. I'm about out of UHF ones, but do have a few VHF ones that I was planning to list there. LJ Original Message: - From: Chuck Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:19:28 -0500 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Outlet for RG214/U

2004-12-31 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
I checked a few sources - BOR (Bust-Out Retail) real Belden Silver Plated RG214 *is* about $5.50 a foot. Others, like Coleman, are allot less. Standard (nickle plate) RG214 was in Tessco's Outlet at $0.89 a foot. So if making jumpers, not going hundreds of feet, nickle plated

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Al Wolfe
Once upon a time you could buy 6 X 9 speakers with two voice coils, each 8 ohms or so. Haven't seen one for years, but they may still be out there somewhere. Used to use one for just what you are wanting to do, run two rigs into one speaker. 73, Al, K9SI Yahoo! Groups Links *

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Tedd Doda
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:02:43 -0600, Al Wolfe wrote: Once upon a time you could buy 6 X 9 speakers with two voice coils, Just make sure your radios filter out the PL! I can just imagine what a 100Hz tone would sound like through a 6x9 :) Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile Repeaters?

2004-12-31 Thread Kevin Custer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who can't afford something like that should think seriously about whether or not they want to be in the business of being a repeater owner. LJ A lot of truth to that statement. [wondering why I own 20 repeaters.] (I know, I want to be poor the rest of my

[Repeater-Builder] Portable Repeater - A Case History

2004-12-31 Thread Eric Lemmon
I recently built a portable 2m repeater that is about the size of a bowling bag and weighs about the same. It is built into an SKB carrying case that is rugged, dripproof, and good-looking. The secret of getting a full-duplex radio and the duplexer into a box measuring about one cubic foot in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Speaker Level Mixing

2004-12-31 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 01:44 PM 12/31/04, you wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:02:43 -0600, Al Wolfe wrote: Once upon a time you could buy 6 X 9 speakers with two voice coils, Just make sure your radios filter out the PL! True! I can just imagine what a 100Hz tone would sound like through a 6x9 :) Probably just