Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Access To National Tower Sites?
I Guess Im lucky.. Im on a commercial tower with 3 runs of 7/8 hardline. the deal is Just pay the Elerctric bill. Fair enough to me... Neal Jeff DePolo wrote: Before everyone decries $ let me say that if you are wanting (free) space on a prime site, you need to LOOK like a professional. Around here (Philadelphia), the going rate for two-way antenna tower space on tall towers is, on average, $5 per foot of antenna height for 7/8 line, scaled up as you increase cable size. We don't have big mountains; your HAAT is typically pretty close to your AGL. So to be at 400' on a tower with 7/8 line, figure $2k a month. If someone is GIVING you free rent that would normally cost $2K a month, your bellyaching about spending $10K for line, connectors, hangers, etc., a commercial antenna and mount, and someone to hang it is going to fall on deaf ears :-) Antennas that fall apart and braided / foil coaxial cable, coupled with home brew antenna mounts will scare the bejesits out of a site manager. I've let other hams on some of the sites that I manage, and they're held to the same standards (including R56) that everyone else is. Hams often take the stance that This is for public service - I'm not making any money on this repeater, so why would you charge me to put it on your site? Well, that's nice, but the tower companies ARE in the business of making money. That's what they do. If they were to give you free tower and floor space, that's potential revenue that they are forfeiting. Even if the tower isn't at or near maximum capacity, you're still using electric, you're still adding to their overhead and recurring costs (tower inventories, site inspections, accounting, legal fees, insurance tracking, etc.), you're yet one more potential cause when someone at the site has an interference problem, etc. All of these cost the owner money. What you might perceive as just taking up an otherwise vacant spot on the tower might cost the tower owner hundreds or thousands of dollars a year. And then, of course, there's the liability issue. Broadcast tower groups (like ATC) often want $10M or more to work on a tower. Some want several $M in liability coverage just to be a tenant in the site. Few tower owners will give you a free pass on that one. And of course there are all of the heightened security issues since 9/11. As far as management is concerned, you're probably just one more unknown to have to worry about... Bottom line - getting onto commercial sites for free is orders of magnitudes more difficult than it was even ten years ago. If you're fortunate enough to make your way into a commercial site, don't cut corners and ruin it for the rest of us :-) --- Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] MAXAR 80 Low-Band VHF Radio Search for Knowledge
From a friend on another list. Please respond to his address below. Happy Thanksgiving 73 Budd Jon Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning all: I have a kennel full of these dogs, and am determined to do something with them (other than the dumpster). 6m 9600 baud links, maybe. Anyone got the decoder rings? Manual, schematic, parts layout? Happy Thanksgiving - Jon N7UV
Re: [Repeater-Builder]REpeater Controller
Any of you guys know anything about a repeater controller called an RC-210? or something like that. I see this 3 port controller all the Time on Ebay Good, bad how difficult to program? thanks Neal
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MAXAR 80 Low-Band VHF Radio Search for Knowledge
Besides a cereal box source, what is a decoder ring? I probably have the manual ... part of the 'just about to be tossed stuff' around here ... the drop box arrives tomorrow morning. When I get tired of moving manuals to the recycler, the remaining manuals will also go into the drop box. No, is not part of the scheme of things to go searching for something special and mail for someone. If I were to ship stuff, I could be shipping stiff for the next year ... Motracs, Mocom-70's, Mocom-30 too?, Micors, Mastr-Pro's, Mastr II's, Exec II's, RCA 700 Series, cabinets, Heliax, Mitreks ... If you want something, be ***here*** and dig for yourself. Neil - in central Oregon - Original Message - From: Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:47 am Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MAXAR 80 Low-Band VHF Radio Search for Knowledge From a friend on another list. Please respond to his address below. Happy Thanksgiving 73 Budd Jon Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning all: I have a kennel full of these dogs, and am determined to do something with them (other than the dumpster). 6m 9600 baud links, maybe. Anyone got the decoder rings? Manual, schematic, parts layout? Happy Thanksgiving - Jon N7UV Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Vertex VX-10 Error1 message, anyone familiar with it. Can it be fixed
I do have the programming cable and the software, however I do not have another one of these units. I had four of them and sold them all off. I did go in with the programming software and rewrote the programming and that did not fix it. Mathew vincent barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi error 1 that is vco out of lock or a programming problum?do u have a nother radio?? if u do u will need the cloning cable ?u clone the one that works. to the one that dont work work.. i have 12 of this so ithats how i did it and it work for me do u have software ?? programming cable ?? n9lv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Vertex VX-10 VHF handheld that all of a sudden developed and error1 and beeps when you hook the battery to it. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks Mathew Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.
RE: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller
Neal, You may be referring to the Pacific Research model RI-210 repeater controller for the Vertex VXR-5000 repeater. This is a very capable controller that is made to plug into the VXR-5000, replacing the original controller. I have one in service on my GMRS repeater, and it works quite well. Don't buy it without the required software and programming cable. More information about this controller can be found here: http://www.pacres.com/products/ri-210.html It's not particularly user-friendly, but once I got all of the variables set, it's been working just fine. Its major failing, which seems to be common to every controller on the planet, is that the built-in clock drifts so much that it is useless. I am looking into using a new TAPR kit to synchronize the clock to GPS time... but that's a whole new topic! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Newman Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:56 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller Any of you guys know anything about a repeater controller called an RC-210? or something like that. I see this 3 port controller all the Time on Ebay Good, bad how difficult to program? thanks Neal
RE: [Repeater-Builder] MAXAR 80 Low-Band VHF Radio Search for Knowledge
Budd and Jon, The Service Manual for the low-band Maxar80 radio is still in print and available from Motorola Parts (800-422-4210), although quantities are limited. Ask for Publication 6881038E05, priced at $23.16 plus a surcharge. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Budd Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:47 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MAXAR 80 Low-Band VHF Radio Search for Knowledge From a friend on another list. Please respond to his address below. Happy Thanksgiving 73 Budd Jon Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:jon%40jonadams.com wrote: Good morning all: I have a kennel full of these dogs, and am determined to do something with them (other than the dumpster). 6m 9600 baud links, maybe. Anyone got the decoder rings? Manual, schematic, parts layout? Happy Thanksgiving - Jon N7UV
Re: [Repeater-Builder]REpeater Controller
Bottom line... They rock.. www.arcom.com I have 2 of them. You won't find a better bang for the buck. Neal Newman wrote: Any of you guys know anything about a repeater controller called an RC-210? or something like that. I see this 3 port controller all the Time on Ebay Good, bad how difficult to program? thanks Neal Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jay Urish CCNANetwork Engineer http://jay.unixwolf.net 972.691.0125972.965.6229
RE: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller
At 11/23/2006 08:02, you wrote: Neal, You may be referring to the Pacific Research model RI-210 repeater controller for the Vertex VXR-5000 repeater. This is a very capable Actually, he said RC-210, which is Ken Arck's controller. He much be heartily chowing down on Thanksgiving turkey to not chime in first on this query ;) set, it's been working just fine. Its major failing, which seems to be common to every controller on the planet, is that the built-in clock drifts so much that it is useless. I am looking into using a new TAPR kit to synchronize the clock to GPS time... but that's a whole new topic! It would be more cost-effective to put an 120 VAC input on the controller for the purpose of picking off the 60 Hz reference. Ever wonder why your 50 year-old AC-powered clock keeps perfect time (between power failures, anyway)? Bob NO6B
Re: [Repeater-Builder]REpeater Controller
At 06:56 AM 11/23/2006, you wrote: Any of you guys know anything about a repeater controller called an RC-210? or something like that. I see this 3 port controller all the Time on Ebay Good, bad how difficult to program? ---Maybe you're talking about our controller? Follow the link in my signature for details and you can alway sign up for the RC210 mail list on Yahoogroups for all sorts of good info as well. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
RE: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller
Here's a link to the RC-210 that he was talking about; http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/rc210/rc210.html also look on ebay for item # 3092970014 Paul kb9wlc --- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neal, You may be referring to the Pacific Research model RI-210 repeater controller for the Vertex VXR-5000 repeater. This is a very capable controller that is made to plug into the VXR-5000, replacing the original controller. I have one in service on my GMRS repeater, and it works quite well. Don't buy it without the required software and programming cable. More information about this controller can be found here: http://www.pacres.com/products/ri-210.html It's not particularly user-friendly, but once I got all of the variables set, it's been working just fine. Its major failing, which seems to be common to every controller on the planet, is that the built-in clock drifts so much that it is useless. I am looking into using a new TAPR kit to synchronize the clock to GPS time... but that's a whole new topic! 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Newman Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:56 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller Any of you guys know anything about a repeater controller called an RC-210? or something like that. I see this 3 port controller all the Time on Ebay Good, bad how difficult to program? thanks Neal Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder]REpeater Controller
At 08:22 AM 11/23/2006, you wrote: Bottom line... They rock.. www.arcom.com ---Thanks Jay but that isn't our URL. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
RE: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller
At 08:33 AM 11/23/2006, you wrote: It would be more cost-effective to put an 120 VAC input on the controller for the purpose of picking off the 60 Hz reference. Ever wonder why your 50 year-old AC-powered clock keeps perfect time (between power failures, anyway)? ---Of if you have an ethernet connection, running an NTP client in the controller (yes, this is a hint! g) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MastrII Audio output transistors
Thanks Eric and Happy Thanksgiving to all. Joe Eric Lemmon wrote: Joe, The Q601 and Q602 audio power output transistors are the same as 2N5496. The GE part number is 19A116742P1. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe C Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 3:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MastrII Audio output transistors Anyone know the industry number for the transistors on the audio heat sink assembly of a MastrII mobile? They look like TO-220 packages. Thanks, Joe No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 5:41 PM
[Repeater-Builder] New file uploaded to Repeater-Builder
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Repeater-Builder group. File: /tait800 repeater manuals/Pages from 8500A3-2.pdf Uploaded by : leiclad36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/files/tait800%20repeater%20manuals/Pages%20from%208500A3-2.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, leiclad36 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller
Bob, I would never think of using the 60 Hz power line to synchronize the clock on a mountaintop repeater, since the power gets interrupted on a fairly regular basis- usually due to the overhead lines touching due to wind galloping, or a tree branch falling across the lines. Once the power is interrupted, the time is in error and must be reset. Cost-effectiveness in my book is based on not just the amount of time, energy, and materials it takes to incorporate the modification, but also whether it eliminates a trip to the site. Since most controllers that I am familiar with run on DC power, the modification to add a 60 Hz synchronizing signal is not a trivial exercise. The TAPR device I mentioned is a step in the right direction, since it replaces the BIOS clock oscillator with a much more accurate timebase. The use of GPS time synchronization is already used in cellular telephone and simulcast systems, and these GPS-disciplined oscillators are readily available on the surplus market. I use an HP GPS-disciplined time base to lock all of the equipment on my RF bench to a 10 MHz standard frequency, and I hope to do the same at each of my repeater sites. The Motorola MTR2000 repeater has a built-in clock that can be locked to a precise external frequency standard, and can trigger an outboard voice box to announce the time- but that is a back-burner project right now. I've already breadboarded a time hack unit which marries a WWV receiver to a tone decoder. At the beginning of each hour, WWV broadcasts 800 ms of a 1500 Hz tone. I have a simple tone detector set to key the repeater when it hears the tone, and to feed that tone to the audio input. Simplicity at this point is a disadvantage, since the tone detection delay and the keyup delay of the transmitter means that part of the tone won't get transmitted. To remedy that, I added a digital countdown unit that is set for 59 minutes 57 seconds. This countdown timer is reset by the tone detector once each hour, and its output keys the transmitter's PTT input. With this improvement, the transmitter is already keyed and waiting for the tone, which is broadcast immediately when received. The tone decoder's relay output keeps the PTT active until the tone goes away, and then releases it. The repeater controller detects the loss of PTT and then triggers the station ID. There are many ways to embellish this device, but simplicity and reliability are my goals. The RC-210 controller slipped my mind; when the poster wrote or something like that I thought of the RI-210. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:34 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller snip It would be more cost-effective to put an 120 VAC input on the controller for the purpose of picking off the 60 Hz reference. Ever wonder why your 50 year-old AC-powered clock keeps perfect time (between power failures, anyway)? Bob NO6B
[Repeater-Builder] t800 manuals
hi here you are let me know if this are any good for you all i have more tate manuals just email me and if anyone as any thing of intrest to me let me now, by the way i allso have cleartone ch650 /cm7000/7000a4 and rare ex met manuals ok glad to be of help 73s
[Repeater-Builder] New DStar 2m Repeater in Muskegon, Mi Area
D Star voice only is now available in the Muskegon, Mi area. WD8MKGDC 147.320 + Dup I/O = C For IC 2200H users please remember to include the C at the end of the repeater callsign. This is Michigan's first DStar repeater. Check out the updated web page which should occur this afternoon with photos of the unit and the Ham's that made it happen. Web page: www.wd8mkg.com Jim, K8COP
RE: [Repeater-Builder]REpeater Controller
Neal, the Arcom (http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html) is a good controller. I have one on UHF, and another going on 900click the above link or all info. Chuck K0XM -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Newman Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:56 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]REpeater Controller Any of you guys know anything about a repeater controller called an RC-210? or something like that. I see this 3 port controller all the Time on Ebay Good, bad how difficult to program? thanks Neal Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 5:41 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 5:41 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 11/22/2006 5:41 PM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder]REpeater Controller
LOL, I must have been fast asleep at the keyboard on that one Ken... Thanks for the correction! Ken Arck wrote: At 08:22 AM 11/23/2006, you wrote: Bottom line... They rock.. www.arcom.com ---Thanks Jay but that isn't our URL. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jay Urish CCNANetwork Engineer http://jay.unixwolf.net 972.691.0125972.965.6229
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tait 855 and 856 tx and rx modules
well i see there is a lot of intrest in this , may be some one as a server i could up load it may be the goup admin can help i allso have cleartone ch650/cm7000/cm7000a4 /and cm7000,uhf.tovhf.fm .repeater manuals ,this are ex met/police and this r very very rare, c Steve Kometz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Man, I could really use the info if I could get it. I even tried getting it from NZ and they just kinda ignore me. Same with the outlet in Canada. - All new Yahoo! Mail The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use. - PC Magazine
[Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-210 interface/port plug type change?
Hey Ken, Per the ebay listing web picture... The Arcom RC-210 repeater controller now sports (has) RJ-45 (the larger telephone type used in computer networks) type jacks on the pc board along with what appears to be the silk screen locations for the original D-9 (aka db-9) jacks/plugs. When you have time would you please comment on the change? ... reason and thinking behind the option/change? Can the db-9 jack/connector locations still be used? thanks skipp
Re: [Repeater-Builder]REpeater Controller
At 10:07 AM 11/23/2006, you wrote: LOL, I must have been fast asleep at the keyboard on that one Ken... No problem! We'll chalk it up to a case of pre-tryptophan! Happy T-day y'all. And to our non-American friends - Happy T-day too (THURS dayg) Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Arcom RC-210 interface/port plug type change?
At 10:30 AM 11/23/2006, you wrote: The Arcom RC-210 repeater controller now sports (has) RJ-45 (the larger telephone type used in computer networks) type jacks on the pc board along with what appears to be the silk screen locations for the original D-9 (aka db-9) jacks/plugs. When you have time would you please comment on the change? ... reason and thinking behind the option/change? Can the db-9 jack/connector locations still be used? ---The RC210 has always given the owner a choice of connectors for the Radio Ports - either DB9 or RJ45. There is space on the board for either, although not a mixture of both. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New DStar 2m Repeater in Muskegon, Mi Area
Jim, did you assign a DCD (digital code) to the repeater as well? Gary Jim, K8COP wrote: D Star voice only is now available in the Muskegon, Mi area. WD8MKGDC 147.320 + Dup I/O = C For IC 2200H users please remember to include the C at the end of the repeater callsign. This is Michigan's first DStar repeater. Check out the updated web page which should occur this afternoon with photos of the unit and the Ham's that made it happen. Web page: www.wd8mkg.com Jim, K8COP Yahoo! Groups Links
[Repeater-Builder] motorola quanto t5365a vhf repeter
i , i m Peter ik4nyv, someone can help me for manual , software and other info of this bridge vhf i have some info for spectra radio many tnx peter
[Repeater-Builder] New DStar 2m Repeater in Muskegon, Mi Area
Could not find that in the software. The manual is not that good with information. Jim, K8COP --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, did you assign a DCD (digital code) to the repeater as well? Gary
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 107.2 GE Versatone wanted to buy
Tom, Have you located one? Jim, K8COP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any of these lying around? I have others to trade or will buy outright. thanks tom n8ies
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 4042
synchronize the clock to GPS time... but that's a whole new topic! It would be more cost-effective to put an 120 VAC input on the controller for the purpose of picking off the 60 Hz reference. Ever wonder why your 50 year-old AC-powered clock keeps perfect time (between power failures, anyway)? Yes but old clocks use gears and are less prone to dirt getting into the counters and causing jumps. BTW Bob, I have not been able to key wr6jpl on 131.8 since before the end of the last shuttle mission. What is up? Will it be up for the next launch? td wb6mie _ MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8000,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200601tcode=wlmtagline
[Repeater-Builder] Need Help identify boards on UHF Mitrek
Hello thanks for reading ok, I got 2 boards I need to identify.. one is a HLN4181 *(is this the pl.tone board) 2nd is a HLN4012 A2 (what is this one) 73 thanks Miguel, ai4sb
RE: {SPAMFILTER} [Repeater-Builder] Need Help identify boards on UHF Mitrek
I believe that is the Time Out Timer or TOT as it is normally called. Used
in some of the Mitrex radios.
Randy B.
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Mitrek
Hello thanks for reading
ok, I got 2 boards I need to identify..
one is a HLN4181 *(is this the pl.tone board)
2nd is a HLN4012 A2 (what is this one)
73
thanks
Miguel, ai4sb
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help identify boards on UHF Mitrek
At 04:38 PM 11/23/2006, you wrote: Hello thanks for reading ok, I got 2 boards I need to identify.. one is a HLN4181 *(is this the pl.tone board) ---Yes, that is the reedless PL board. 2nd is a HLN4012 A2 (what is this one) that is a timeout timer board. Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
RE: [Repeater-Builder]Repeater Controller
At 11/23/2006 09:29, you wrote: Bob, I would never think of using the 60 Hz power line to synchronize the clock on a mountaintop repeater, since the power gets interrupted on a fairly regular basis- usually due to the overhead lines touching due to wind galloping, or a tree branch falling across the lines. Once the power is interrupted, the time is in error and must be reset. Not if the 60 Hz reference is backed up by the typical Dallas clock. Cost-effectiveness in my book is based on not just the amount of time, energy, and materials it takes to incorporate the modification, but also whether it eliminates a trip to the site. Since most controllers that I am familiar with run on DC power, the modification to add a 60 Hz synchronizing signal is not a trivial exercise. I'm not suggesting that one modify an existing controller, but rather that the controller manufacturers incorporate this feature into future designs. The hardware required to implement this feature would be quite inexpensive compared to the GPS option. None of my sites have internet connectivity, so the NTP server option is not for me, nor would I be able to hang a GPS antenna outside the building without paying for the extra antenna slot. I suspect many others are in the same boat. I've already breadboarded a time hack unit which marries a WWV receiver to a tone decoder. At the beginning of each hour, WWV broadcasts 800 ms of a 1500 Hz tone. I have a simple tone detector set to key the repeater when it I once tried to pick up the 10 MHz WWV signal from one of my sites. No way - far too much processor noise in the building. Bob NO6B
RE: {SPAMFILTER} [Repeater-Builder] Need Help identify boards on UHF Mitrek
There is a good article in the files section here on the HLN4181 board.
Randy B.
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Mitrek
Hello thanks for reading
ok, I got 2 boards I need to identify..
one is a HLN4181 *(is this the pl.tone board)
2nd is a HLN4012 A2 (what is this one)
73
thanks
Miguel, ai4sb
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RE: {SPAMFILTER} [Repeater-Builder] Need Help identify boards on UHF Mitrek
I didn’t provide enough information to you. The 4012 is the TOT board and
yes the 4181 is the tone encoder.
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Mitrek
Hello thanks for reading
ok, I got 2 boards I need to identify..
one is a HLN4181 *(is this the pl.tone board)
2nd is a HLN4012 A2 (what is this one)
73
thanks
Miguel, ai4sb
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 4042
At 11/23/2006 18:22, you wrote: synchronize the clock to GPS time... but that's a whole new topic! It would be more cost-effective to put an 120 VAC input on the controller for the purpose of picking off the 60 Hz reference. Ever wonder why your 50 year-old AC-powered clock keeps perfect time (between power failures, anyway)? Yes but old clocks use gears and are less prone to dirt getting into the counters and causing jumps. That's easy to take care of in various ways: BPF the 60 Hz then count, or phase-lock an oscillator to the 60 Hz using a very low loop BW count the oscillator (basically a fancy version of the BPF method). BTW Bob, I have not been able to key wr6jpl on 131.8 since before the end of the last shuttle mission. What is up? Will it be up for the next launch? It's sitting 5 ft. to my right, on the workbench. RFPA power wiring burned up at the main connector (it's a Mastr II mobile). I already fixed that (bypassed the RFPA power pins, using Powerpole connector now) am just taking care of some other minor problems like the audio squelch pre-gate (for the slow gate in the RLC3). BTW, when it comes back it'll be using 103.5 tone. Bob td wb6mie _ MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8000,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200601tcode=wlmtagline Yahoo! Groups Links
