Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread mch
Tell that to the hams who have been fined for non-compliant towers they don't own. Joe M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric FCC Part 17 is attached and I can find no language in the compliance section of 17.6 that a permittee, will be fined for site owner non-compliance. For openers, the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-17 Thread texasexpediter
What is the maximum height a tower can be without falling under all the lighting, painting etc. regulations?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-17 Thread Merrill
199 feet merrill kg4idd texasexpediter wrote: What is the maximum height a tower can be without falling under all the lighting, painting etc. regulations? Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-17 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Generally 199 ft unless you are close to an airport. There is a 110 ft tower that requires registration but no painting or lighting because it is close to the Temple, Texas airport. Steve NU5D texasexpediter wrote: What is the maximum height a tower can be without falling under all the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-17 Thread Eric Lemmon
Generally, 200 feet is the limit for unlighted towers. Any structure that extends more than 200 feet above ground level will require an Aeronautical Study to determine if it is a hazard to air navigation. However, there are instances where a shorter structure poses a hazard, possibly due to its

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-17 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
If far enough from an airport, 200 feet. If close to an airport, it requires a determination by the FAA. If greater than 200 feet or within a boundary as specified by the FAA, the tower has to be registered. As part of the conditions of registration, the FAA will specify what the lighting

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread cruising7388
In a message dated 6/17/2007 12:29:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tell that to the hams who have been fined for non-compliant towers they don't own. Talking the talk is easy. Walking the walk is harder. Sweeping generalities don't cut it. Urban myths don't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread George Henry
- Original Message - From: Mike Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This? Yes we would and DO! There is a ham in the area who also operates a 2 way radio business that has

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread Al
It sits on 4 1/2 acres of land and includes a 189' tower, still with Microwave horns on it. The tower is complete, less the transmission equipment. Normally, one would generally not need to illuminate this tower (unless it is a very fat microwave tower with dishes on it or near a runway).

[Repeater-Builder] Tennants Fined???

2007-06-17 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Don't know if this counts or not. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3457/is_n21_v10/ai_12712168 Personally, I do not know. Steve NU5D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/17/2007 12:29:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tell that to the hams who have

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-17 Thread Paul Finch
Hello, I am working a project for a customer on a hill about 3 miles West of a military runway. I went to the FCC website and filled in their online guide for allowable tower heights. After putting in the coordinates and building height (2 stories) the computer crunched. It came back and said

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tennants Fined???

2007-06-17 Thread cruising7388
Steve Thanks for the citation. That was then, but this is now. Read FCC Part 17, section 17.6 which is the current regulation involving tower deficiencies. It comes down to this: the tower owner has the primary responsibility for both making himself aware of any tower deficiency(s) and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ICOM Repeater

2007-06-17 Thread Maire-Radios
ok here is goes. We are a Kenwood, Icom and Brigecom dealer. Yes we can sell all three. We also have a number of our own repeater on the air. Brigecom is very good in the repeater use and great for ham use. Kenwood the TKR-840 we have about 6 on line (been taking out Micors) for the 460 to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-17 Thread Kerincom
That would be a pain .Our towers here in rual Australia have to be 50 meters before a light needs to be installed .I don't know if the rule is different in and near the city areas. One day I might have to find out . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-17 Thread cruising7388
It's worse than you think. Since you are now aware that the ground is 75 feet too high, you are legally required to bulldoze the mountaintop down even if you don't construct the tower. It all has to go to an EPA site where it is examined for cosmic contamination and evidence of any

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread cruising7388
It's a perfect Catch-22. You're not qualified unless you have climbed the tower, but you can't climb the tower unless you're qualified. In a message dated 6/17/2007 11:50:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Silly question #1: just how does one become a qualified

Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFr Service

2007-06-17 Thread cruising7388
Shorty Considering how many IFR units there are on the west coast, it's really remarkable that nobody has filled a regional niche for dealing with IFR and Cushman service monitors. To the best of my knowledge, the closest repair facility is Cardinal Electronics in the midwest. The

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-17 Thread Paul Finch
You forgot Indian burial ground. Deleting hard drive nowZAP! Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder]

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread Paul Finch
Hello, Actually there are companies out there that train tower hands, one is Comtrain. They are pretty good about it. Anyone going up my tall tower is supposed to be Comtrained or have some kind of certification. Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFr Service

2007-06-17 Thread Scott Overstreet
Shorty Unfortunately in Wichita Kansas but take a look at http://www.kgelectronics.com/ Kurt worked for IFR back when IFR was IFR- Now has a home shop and fixes 500's and 1200S's Nice, helpful fellowweekdays, call him after 4:00 his time ---316-773-0948 Scott - Original

[Repeater-Builder] Monetary Forfeitures

2007-06-17 Thread cruising7388
The only reason I've even addressed the dire warnings is that I would hate to see someone elect not to take advantage of a great site out of concern about paying humongous fines for problems that neither have been caused by the tenant nor practically capable of being eliminated or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread cruising7388
Paul Does Comtrain train you on the tower you want to be climbing or do you train on their own tower? Bruce In a message dated 6/17/2007 4:31:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Actually there are companies out there that train tower hands, one is

[Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-17 Thread Bob M.
Did anybody ever come up with a source for the short RCA plugs that fit older Motorola and GE radios? Even some with RG58 molded on would be useful. Or is the solution to buy a particular hollow audio RCA plug, snip the end off, and round it over? Bob M.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread Paul Finch
Bruce, They have a practice tower at their location, it close to 200 feet if I remember correctly. I think I have heard of them coming to your location for a price and if you have enough people to train. Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

[Repeater-Builder] Tower Climbing Safety and Certification

2007-06-17 Thread Eric Lemmon
Mobile Radio Technology (MRT) magazine has an interesting article about tower climbing here: www.mrtmag.com/mag/radio_tower_climbingsafety_rescue/ 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch Sent:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread Christopher Hodgdon
By George I have not seen this much talk about one topic for a while. This as really been an interesting topic. I will go in a little more on this. This former ATT facility was built in the early in 1950's. It is one of the totally self-contained facilities with no windows or access to the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread cruising7388
This must really be an event to look forward to because typically, the thing over which a system owner has the least control is the condition of the site itself. You will be able to control the pairs that are used on the site to ensure that there is no on channel, adjacent channel or off

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
George, I don't think that this is a silly question. In fact, I think that this is a very SERIOUS topic! I was a transmitter engineer for WAEO-TV located in Rhinelander, WI in the early 1980's. During the summer of 1980, a tower crew was contracted to paint the 2000 feet tower (yep, that's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
The RF Connection. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:09 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables Did anybody ever come up with a source for the short RCA plugs that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You..... tower height question

2007-06-17 Thread Gerald Pelnar
Back in the old days, I had to file FAA paperwork on a 36 foot push up mast that was less than a 1/2 mile from a runway. Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF McPherson, Ks - Original Message - From: Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:03 PM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Climbing Safety and Certification

2007-06-17 Thread Paul Guello
That link didn't work, try this one; http://mrtmag.com/mag/radio_tower_climbingsafety_rescue/index.html Paul kb9wlc --- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mobile Radio Technology (MRT) magazine has an interesting article about tower climbing here:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread Christopher Hodgdon
We are lucky with this. If it all works out like we are hoping, we have a great deal here. To get to the site, you drive down a two lane state highway and then turn into one of two driveways at each end. Don't have to fight getting through someone else's property or anything to get to it.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread cruising7388
This is deeply weird. I've never heard of (at least around here) of any taxing entity that could assign a value to any real property in excess of fair market value which is essentially the purchase price for the property in what is commonly termed an arms length transaction. I believe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-17 Thread cruising7388
Do these things have anything that even resembles a 50 ohm impedance or do they typically look at a network that accounts for a different impedance? In a message dated 6/17/2007 7:19:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The RF Connection. Chuck WB2EDV - Original

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-17 Thread Robin Midgett
What a field day site! At 07:57 PM 6/17/2007, you wrote: By George I have not seen this much talk about one topic for a while. This as really been an interesting topic. I will go in a little more on this. This former ATT facility was built in the early in 1950's. It is one of the totally

RE: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables

2007-06-17 Thread Trevor Raty
Hamtronics has them. Trevor KGMDW _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:20 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RF RCA Plugs and/or cables Do these