RE: [Repeater-Builder] Doubling Power Output On UHF Repeater

2007-11-03 Thread Bill Hudson
You're right Nate. These people will only notice 3 dB in their dreams. We could change power on their repeater day to day and they'd never know the difference. Bill - W6CBS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Friday,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Doubling Power Output On UHF Repeater

2007-11-03 Thread Bill Hudson
One of my standard lines: Standards are good, because there are so many to choose from. Bill - W6CBS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola 150W PA

2007-11-03 Thread n9wys
OK, more questions for the collective. (Yes, I know - doesn't he ever quit?? hehehe) I'm about to delve into converting one of the 150W Motorola STF2520A power amplifiers for my 900 MHz repeater. I read on the VHFSouth web page, where the conversion/modification procedures are listed,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Doubling Power Output On UHF Repeater

2007-11-03 Thread no6b
At 11/2/2007 22:30, you wrote: Only if you're using a rig with a skewed S-meter (and today many are made that way). There are standards for proper S-meter calibration. No S-meter involved. A 3 dB increase in signal can make the difference between unreadable readable. Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Doubling Power Output On UHF Repeater

2007-11-03 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only if you're using a rig with a skewed S-meter (and today many are made that way). There are standards for proper S-meter calibration. While most people seem to agree that there is a standard, almost no receiver is calibrated to the 'standard'. The low

[Repeater-Builder] Micor Audio on VERY WEAK SIGNALS

2007-11-03 Thread Jim Cicirello
Hi Guys, A question for the MICOR fans that may have experienced a similar dilemma I am having with one of our three Micor Repeaters. All three are Micor VHF Bases, converted to repeater duty using the information I obtained from this group. All three have Cat 200 Controllers and unless I have

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Audio on VERY WEAK SIGNALS

2007-11-03 Thread Eric Lemmon
Jim, If the end-to-end audio pre-emphasis and de-emphasis is not complementary, the audio will sound very bright, tinny, and noisy. Also, check to see if the audio is getting pre-emphasized twice- that will really make it bright. If you have access to an audio sweep generator and a digital

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Doubling Power Output On UHF Repeater

2007-11-03 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
One more commentlet's see if I can make it without getting egg on my face... The older receivers such as my Collins 74A4 called for a 100uv (that's microvolts) input to get S9 and my Kenwood 820 said 50uv for the same...so that should give you an idea how important it is to give a 59

[Repeater-Builder] Singer FM10C (yes I know its old, but)

2007-11-03 Thread w7hsg
Hi All I have a Singer/Gertsch FM10C , sn 135 with a bad scope. The Oscope is Singer model ODM 1 Sn492 I have traced my problem, (noise on scope trace) to the Vertical Amp Board The board in my ODM 1 is a 5-003204-005 Revision D My manual has the diagram of a 4-003204-008 Revision A3

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Doubling Power Output On UHF Repeater

2007-11-03 Thread Eric Lemmon
The IARU has a recommended level. Go here: www.algonet.se/~k-jarl/ssa/IARU/smeter.html I found this link on the ARRL Web site. -93 dBm equals 5 uV, -73 dBm equals 50 uV, and -67 dBm equals 100 uV. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Audio on VERY WEAK SIGNALS

2007-11-03 Thread Laryn Lohman
Jim, this can easily happen with any brand of repeater, if audio is not adjusted correctly. The transmitter has a deviation control, yes? Well, that control has nothing to do with what I am talking about. Some transmitters could have another control called -mic gain-, -mic sensitivity-,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF Radio recommendations ??

2007-11-03 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, wb6ymh wrote: The 30 watt version is a better radio for repeater service since all solid state transmitters are very inefficient when run below their designed output. A 30 watt Mitrek running at 15 watts will probably last forever, but a 50 watt Mitrek running at 20

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Audio on VERY WEAK SIGNALS

2007-11-03 Thread Jim Cicirello
Thanks for the information Eric. I don't have the equipment you mentioned, but I will retrace everything on this repeater compared to the original and see if something is different that hopefully pops out. 73 Jim KA2AJH _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL

[Repeater-Builder] Quintron / Glenayre Universal Exciter

2007-11-03 Thread Adam C. Feuer
Hello All, I have on the bench a working universal exciter presently on 931.7125. I need to obtain a new channel prom for it with two new frequencies in it for the ham band. Does anyone out there have this ability in which I could purchase from? If so, please reply off list with how much for

[Repeater-Builder] Yaesu Charger

2007-11-03 Thread w7hsg
Looking for the schematic for a Yaesu /Vertex CD15A. Charger is used with the Yaesu/Vertex VX-7R I can't seem to find any information anywhere. Can anyone help Ralph, W7HSG ---BeginMessage--- On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, wb6ymh wrote: The 30 watt version is a better

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Yaesu Charger

2007-11-03 Thread Richard
I looked through the service manual for the VX-7R on the off chance that it would have the charger schematic, but there was no mention of it. Richard http://www.n7tgb.net/ www.n7tgb.net _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc

2007-11-03 Thread w7hsg
Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I have had good luck putting crystals in old channel elements and changing the caps as necessary to achieve reasonable stability.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Audio on VERY WEAK SIGNALS

2007-11-03 Thread Kevin Custer
Put your MICOR speaker on the (mobile?) radio you are listening to, this will give you an apples to apples comparison. I use a MICOR speaker in my work truck, it's connected to a Kenwood 742, and yes, it makes a BIG difference. Kevin Custer Jim Cicirello wrote: Hi Guys, A question for the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc

2007-11-03 Thread Kevin Custer
Repeater Builder uses BOMAR for the most part, ICM for the rest. http://www.bomarcrystal.com/ Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Looking for information on who makes crystals for channel elements. Micor's and Mitrek Yes, I know that International makes them but the price is high. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc

2007-11-03 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
Ralph, Check out BOMAR crystals. You might be surprised at their prices. Also, I believe that Repeater-Builder, the company, uses them. Check in with Kevin and Scott to get all of the particulars. Go here: http://www.bomarcrystal.com/home3.htm Don, KD9PT - Original Message -

[Repeater-Builder] zetron 38a

2007-11-03 Thread rwjohn49
Folks, I just got a Zetron 38A at a hamfest. Works fine in the repeater but I have tried the password code and no results. It is listed in the book as 12123#. Someone must have changed it... What do I do now? Can it be set back to a factory default? thanks, ron

Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 38a

2007-11-03 Thread Maire-Radios
take out the chip with the battery and unplug the chip from the battery give it 3 mins or so and put it back should default. - Original Message - From: rwjohn49 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder]

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc

2007-11-03 Thread Eric Lemmon
Ralph, Before you make a decision on your supplier, please read the following article: www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/temperature-compensation.html Unless you have a testing laboratory equal to that found in a commercial crystal house, I suspect that your good luck is more likely blind

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc

2007-11-03 Thread w7hsg
Eric, Thanks for the reply Lab is not equal to testing lab but is OK. Cumex were cheap crystals and managed to compensate ok. Bomar which everyone seems to recommend makes much better crystals. I have a small oven and an ERI counter good to .1 hz at 440. I can cycle and adjust within

[Repeater-Builder] used Micor repeater vhf crystals + element needed??

2007-11-03 Thread gervais fillion
Hi all if someone would have a pair of used Channell elements with their crystals,let me know with your frequency! i needa pair and maybe i can find here a set that would tx in my region, thanks for your help gervais ve2ckn _

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc

2007-11-03 Thread Jim Brown
I use Bomar these days for crystals for the ham bands. I have had good luck installing them myself and re-adjusting them in a year or so back to the right frequency. I recently worked on a GE Delta radio that had been crystaled using CUMEX and found the receive crystal had drifted over 2

Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 38a

2007-11-03 Thread Jim Brown
Look inside the unit and find the ram IC that is plugged into the Dallas Semiconductor battery backup chip. Remove the ram IC from the battery backup chip for several seconds and plug it back in. It will default back to the factory original 12123. The controller will not be in the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Audio on VERY WEAK SIGNALS

2007-11-03 Thread Jim Brown
This may be out in left field, but I have built several repeaters using the CAT300 controller (not the CAT200) and the 300 had no way to de-emphasize the discriminator audio. I have used an external series 15 K and shunt .22 cap to supply the discriminator audio to the CAT300 and it sounds

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Audio on VERY WEAK SIGNALS

2007-11-03 Thread Jim Cicirello
Thanks Laryn, I will take the service monitor and on duplex I can put in 2 or 3 kHZ and read the output and see if it is the same. Good idea! 73 JIM _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 3:15

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Audio on VERY WEAK SIGNALS

2007-11-03 Thread Jim Cicirello
I will recheck that Circuit Jim. It won't hurt to double check. 73 and thanks JIM KA2AJH _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 12:25 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Audio on VERY WEAK SIGNALS

2007-11-03 Thread Jim Cicirello
Thanks Kevin. I have a list to include a 1/8 plug and clip leads. That will tell me as you suggested. I have got a lot of good ideas from the group. 73 Jim KA2AJH _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Saturday,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystals Motorola etc

2007-11-03 Thread MCH
I just went (actually, AM GOING) through an order with ICM. Boy have they changed in the last 10 years. Orders take much longer than they used to. I went with ICM because this particular order I wanted to be flawless. I should have stuck with Bomar. Joe M. Jim Brown wrote: I use Bomar these

[Repeater-Builder] WTB:Vertex ft-7011

2007-11-03 Thread Jay Urish
Doies anybody have a 7011 99ch 35w mobile in good shape they want to sell? -- Jay Urish W5GM ARRL Life MemberDenton County ARRL VEC N5ERS VP/Trustee Monitoring 444.850 PL-88.5