Re: [Repeater-Builder] ENHANCED RECEIVE

2009-08-19 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 07:47 PM 08/18/09, you wrote: I have heard of repeater owners using pre-amps on the receive side of the duplexer and adding 1 pass-reject cavity after the preamp and placing a pre-amp on the pass reject cavity to enhance more receive. Does this work or is it a myth? Artie k2aau Depends on

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ENHANCED RECEIVE

2009-08-19 Thread WA3GIN
Mike, Pre-amps are fine if you need to reduce feedline and connector loss, for those lucky few that have antennas way up on commercial towers and have significant loss. Otherwise, nada. Signal to noise is not improved and can be effected negatively. Pre-amps can also be easily overloaded by

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Type?

2009-08-19 Thread Walter Treftz
GM Lee - Tks for input. I don't have an analyzer here. Best I can do is an old military AN/PRM-10 GDO. I think (since I never venture up into that region) it goes up to a couple hundred mhz so will eventually try that. I'm primarily interested in moving all this estate stuff out of my garage at

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ENHANCED RECEIVE

2009-08-19 Thread Doug Bade
This particular commentary seems somewhat inaccurate in saying signal to noise cannot be improved...as even GE offered a factory preamp for the Mastr II in VHF and UHF. The sensitivity spec improvedThey DID NOT suggest using it in a station environment as THEIR preamp overloads very easily

[Repeater-Builder] DB-224 Matching

2009-08-19 Thread tahrens301
In my quest to get rid of desense with the Quantar, someone mentioned that having the 'wrong' antenna could make the desense worse. I've got a DB-224 - not the 'ham' version, but the 150-160 MHz version, and there is a bit of a mismatch. Has anyone ever had any desense that they could attribute

[Repeater-Builder] Re: ENHANCED RECEIVE

2009-08-19 Thread wb6ymh
Most of the replies so far indicate a failure to read the original post *SLOWLY*. TWO preamps, one after the duplexer and then another one after a pass-reject cavity. This sounds wrong to me under any circumstances. The pass-reject cavity should have at most 1 or 2 db of loss, adding yet another

Re: [Repeater-Builder] ENHANCED RECEIVE

2009-08-19 Thread Kevin Custer
k2aau wrote: I have heard of repeater owners using pre-amps on the receive side of the duplexer and adding 1 pass-reject cavity after the preamp and placing a pre-amp on the pass reject cavity to enhance more receive. Does this work or is it a myth? It does work on UHF. I have no

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 Matching

2009-08-19 Thread NORM KNAPP
What frequency pair in 2m do you have? Have you thought about putting ss bollts through the bottoms and tops of the loops to bring the db-224a down in frequency? 73 de N5NPO Norm - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB-224 Matching

2009-08-19 Thread tahrens301
Hi Norm, It's 147.10/70, so at least it's up high in the band. I thought about adding some metal to the loops, but figured I'd ask around here to see if it's been done before. Thanks, Tim --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, NORM KNAPP nkn...@... wrote: What frequency pair in 2m do you

[Repeater-Builder] COR board for simple repeater??

2009-08-19 Thread gervais
Hi all i am looking a COR board that i could use between 2 walkie-talkie that would be used here as a replacement for my regular repeater in case of accident. i have seen this many years ago,an amateur built his own repeater with 2 talkie's,simple and efficient. So maybe someone know where i

Re: [Repeater-Builder] COR board for simple repeater??

2009-08-19 Thread Rick Szajkowski
hi Gervais I have such a item .. its an alinco controller it was ment to have 2 HTs on it .. or even one and then act as a 'parrot' repeater if you would like more info email me off list On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:19 PM, gervaisve2...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi all i am looking a COR board that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 Matching

2009-08-19 Thread James Lee
Have you checked the repeater for desense without the antenna installed? As in most commercial repeaters they are usually designed for larger spacing than 600 kHz. Check it without the antenna and all open ports terminated with a 50 ohm termination. Then add the antenna and look at the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] COR board for simple repeater??

2009-08-19 Thread James Lee
MFJ make one, check their catalog...

[Repeater-Builder] Re: COR board for simple repeater??

2009-08-19 Thread skipp025
Depends on a few things... do you want the repeater to key on received voice/speaker volume level detection or from a logic level change like a carrier squelch or CTCSS (PL) detection logic? Voice audio detection can work OK if you consider the key up delay in the repeat path, but using two

[Repeater-Builder] Need a TLD-2601A PA

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Clarke
Our club's MSR-2000 repeater recently ate it's PA, a TLD-2601A. Actually it went intermittent on us and several folks have gone over it with the magnifying glass and reflowed most of the major solder joints to no avail. That's a low split, 100 watt, continuous duty PA. If anyone has one

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need a TLD-2601A PA

2009-08-19 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
Desolder the flat gold plated transistor leads. Clean the black residue at the gold - tin interface. Resolder the transistor leads after removing any gold left by tinning the lead and removing the solder a few times. Gold embrittlement is very common. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 10:25 PM 8/19/2009, you