[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desoldering MSR2000 RX PCB

2010-08-03 Thread wb6dgn
I'm not sure about the MSR2000, I was in the portable shop already, but, typically, Motorola uses multi-layer PC boards in most of their radios. Often, one of those layers is mostly ground plane, a huge heat sink. It's not unusual to require a higher wattage iron to flow solder on a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-03 Thread wb6dgn
I'm told C4 is much more effective and you need less of it! T. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Cooper zl...@... wrote: Maybe a little Black Powder might be needed? Gordon ZL1KL Tauranga N.Z.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desoldering MSR2000 RX PCB

2010-08-03 Thread skipp025
Thomas Oliver tsoli...@... wrote: For de-soldering I use a de-solder iron with a squeeze bulb on it from Radio Shack, works great. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062731 tom Nice for most things but not removing the final modules from an MSR-2000 and/or Micor RF

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desoldering MSR2000 RX PCB

2010-08-03 Thread skipp025
Eric Grabowski ejgrabow...@... wrote: A recent thread discussed a problem disassembling a MSR2000 continuous duty PA. That triggers this query: Does anyone know if Motorola used a higher temperature solder on the MSR2000 units? Yes s.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desoldering MSR2000 RX PCB

2010-08-03 Thread wb6dgn
What do they use? What alloy? Seems that radio was out too early for RoHS? Tom DGN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 skipp...@... wrote: Eric Grabowski ejgrabowski@ wrote: A recent thread discussed a problem disassembling a MSR2000 continuous duty PA. That triggers

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Desoldering MSR2000 RX PCB

2010-08-03 Thread Milt
Wattage is of less importance than tip temperature and size. Weller's better irons came with tips that were available in 3 ranges, approx 600, 70, and 800 degrees F. The 800 degree tips were the only ones that I have ever had any degree of success with. Other manufacturers use various types

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding

2010-08-03 Thread Milt
That may be what the mask specifies. I have seen the curve plots of the mask. Now run the numbers and see what kind of signal levels that really equates to when the DTV station is running say 1 MW. It looks pretty on paper, it's not so pretty in the real world. - Original Message -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-03 Thread wd8chl
On 8/2/2010 11:15 PM, skipp025 wrote: ... The entire project including obtaining the parts from recycled radios takes me about 4.5 hours with beverage of choice and some decent AM Talk-Radio playing at low back-ground volume level (no, not the right-wing whack job stuff). As opposed to the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding

2010-08-03 Thread wd8chl
On 8/2/2010 11:23 PM, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: I do not know about Nextel, but, the US DTV signal fits into a 6 MHz bandwidth. We use a mask filter to ensure that the bandwidth is no more than 6 MHz. 500 kHz from band edge= -47 dB 6 MHz from band edge= -110 dB 73 Glenn WB4UIV And

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-03 Thread Bill
Apparently no one here got the moto memo on working with giant heat-sinks. First you only need a 30-40 watt iron to work on them as moto did at the factory The secret is.. raising the heat-sink to about 3-400 degrees while you are working on what needs to be done. PS ..

[Repeater-Builder] Re: De-Soldering Motorola MSR-2000 Micor RF PA Substrates

2010-08-03 Thread skipp025
Eric Grabowski ejgrabowski@ wrote: A recent thread discussed a problem disassembling a MSR2000 continuous duty PA. That triggers this query: Does anyone know if Motorola used a higher temperature solder on the MSR2000 units? skipp025 skipp025@ wrote: Yes s. wb6dgn wb6...@...

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-03 Thread Kevin Custer
Bill wrote: Apparently no one here got the moto memo on working with giant heat-sinks. First you only need a 30-40 watt iron to work on them as moto did at the factory The secret is.. raising the heat-sink to about 3-400 degrees while you are working on what needs to be

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-03 Thread skipp025
The amplifier in question is a MSR2000 VHF, not UHF - no ceramics to worry about - no oven required. Kevin Don't know what you'd really use the Oven for... For the VHF PA (like the Micor) I switch from the mondo iron to the trusty Weller 550 and 8200 guns. I feel it's better get on and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radio

2010-08-03 Thread n5sxq.0
Dick rert...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I missed the original posting. Was someone looking to buy GMRS mobiles and handhelds, and perhaps even a GMRS repeater? If so contact n5sx...@charter,com 73's group

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radio

2010-08-03 Thread Bill Smith
Where is that written? Nothing that I see in the rules covering ERP except a maximum TX power out of 50 watts under 47CFR95.135 From: Dick rert...@ix.netcom.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 10:31:24 PM Subject: Re:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-03 Thread Kevin King
I use the mass of an old martial-aid size soldering iron, which are often passed over by uninformed souls shopping at Ham Flea Markets. s. Skipp, you kill me! They used those in sheet metal shops and doing rain gutters. Got one and it is amazing on touch and ping off it comes!.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-03 Thread Kevin King
Hmmm my comments were lost. Oh well I just commented you kill me Skipp. _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:54 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Narrowbanding

2010-08-03 Thread Bill Smith
What's nastier is T-band sharing. WCVB in Boston on channel 20 routinely hammers a number of 500 MHZ public safety systems in New Jersey.   From: Milt men...@pa.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 6:56:05 AM Subject: Re:

[Repeater-Builder] Mastr II drift problem

2010-08-03 Thread steve
Hello all, I have having a severe drift problem on my GE Mastr II 2 meter repeater. The transmit freq will drift nearly 2 KHZ over a 5-10 minute period. I have changed exciters and used a different ICOM but no improvement. The building that I am in is not ventilated and is very very hot. I put

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II drift problem

2010-08-03 Thread David Murman
Only if your crystals in the ICOMs are from BOMAR. David From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 5:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II drift problem

[Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Mobile Repeater?

2010-08-03 Thread La Rue Communications
Gentlemen (And Ladies) I have a MASTR II Exec mobile here, I think its a UHF Repeater. I want to confirm with you - but I am curious what RCC stands for. Comb number YS55SSXX88A. Nothing comes up on Google and not sure which Comb spec sheet to look this up with Hall Electronics or here on RB

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna coax length

2010-08-03 Thread Greg
If it is easy to do, go with the single lenght. Less connector losses and chances of failure due to water ingress or corrosion etc. Greg Sent from your Iphone. -Original Message- From: Craig fxbuil...@yahoo.com Sender: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:43:04

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Mobile Repeater?

2010-08-03 Thread John J. Riddell
John, In it's former life it probably was a mobile telephone. 73 John VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: La Rue Communications To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:28 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Mobile Repeater? Gentlemen

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mastr II Mobile Repeater?

2010-08-03 Thread bil.isom
RCC = Radio Common Carrier. The OLD mobile telephone service. Before IMTS (Improved Mobile Telephone Service) and long before cell. BTW Perry Mason used RCC Bill N4XIR --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, La Rue Communications laruec...@... wrote: Gentlemen (And Ladies) I have a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II drift problem

2010-08-03 Thread Stanley Stanukinos
Did you just buy the crystals and insert them in the ICOMs or did you send them in to the crystal MFG to be compensated. If you did them yourself the compensation is probably now messed up. The best way to fix it is to send them in to the crystal MFG for compensation. Stan From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mastr II Mobile Repeater?

2010-08-03 Thread Chris Curtis
Perry mason or Ironside? kb0wlf -Original Message- From: bil.isom bil.i...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mastr II Mobile Repeater? RCC = Radio Common Carrier. The OLD mobile telephone service.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Looking for manual for Celwave 526-4-2

2010-08-03 Thread Ray
I am also looking for the same manual and have searched wide and far. Did this thread have any success that could point me in the right direction or could someone be so kind as to forward a copy? svfdcook KE5VJH --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck ah...@... wrote: At 01:40

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mastr II drift problem

2010-08-03 Thread steve
Hi Stan, Yes I sent the crystals to International. I have 3 fans running full time on the heat sink. Thanks for any help! Steve --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Stanley Stanukinos ka5...@... wrote: Did you just buy the crystals and insert them in the ICOMs or did you send them in

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mastr II drift problem

2010-08-03 Thread Stanley Stanukinos
Next thing look at the comp voltage going to the tcxo it comes off of the 10v reg card. Have you checked or swapped it yet? From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:06 PM To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna coax length

2010-08-03 Thread ka9qjg
Greg , That is the Same as LMR-400 Put that in the Calculator and Check I did not see your Freq posted , Good advice use one piece Connectors /splice Etc . will give a big loss depending on the Freq hope this helps http://www.ocarc.ca/coax.htm Godd Luck PS Trees are great at

[Repeater-Builder] Desoldering MSR2000 RX PCB

2010-08-03 Thread Eric Grabowski
Thanks for the comments and suggestions. Here's a summary and some parting thoughts. Tom wrote: For de-soldering I use a de-solder iron with a squeeze bulb on it from Radio Shack, works great. I've got one of those. In fact, it was the first tool I tried. It wouldn't melt the solder on the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Mobile Repeater?

2010-08-03 Thread men...@pa.net
Most likely an old RCC mobile phone. Full duplex mobile, check for multiple channel elements crystalled in the 454/459 area. Milt N3LTQ Quoting La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com: Gentlemen (And Ladies) I have a MASTR II Exec mobile here, I think its a UHF Repeater. I want to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Mobile Repeater?

2010-08-03 Thread Rick Buckner
I'm sure Harris in Lynchburg VA will have that combination breakdown. They purchased MACOM, previously purchased Ericcson, GE, etc... From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:29 PM To:

[Repeater-Builder] UHF Isolator Wanted

2010-08-03 Thread K5IN
Ok, one last try. I need a UHF isolator and thought I would ask here again. Brian, K5IN

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II drift problem

2010-08-03 Thread Mike Morris
At 03:33 PM 08/03/10, you wrote: Hello all, I have having a severe drift problem on my GE Mastr II 2 meter repeater. The transmit freq will drift nearly 2 KHZ over a 5-10 minute period. I have changed exciters and used a different ICOM but no improvement. The building that I am in is not