Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-03 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Kris Kirby wrote: There is one issue that needs to be handled. When a D-Star repeater hears another user on the input for a callsign not it's own, the modem is captured, and any input packet that starts or is received in the middle of that transmission is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-03 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:32 AM, k7pfj wrote: Unless you have a Aeroflex 3920 with the options you can scan DStar as well as Mototrbo and all others. Well, at least until the P25 guys turn on encryption. :-) A whole new learning curve. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-03 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 2, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Doug Bade wrote: Yes... Icom oversold it.. Actually they did an okay job on the radios, JARL did a really piss-poor job on the streaming standard, and Icom REALLY screwed up the distribution of a Linux server... (Build Apache from SOURCE CODE as a normal way to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-03 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010, Nate Duehr wrote: Actually they did an okay job on the radios, JARL did a really piss-poor job on the streaming standard, The radio interface isn't so bad until you get into programming all fourteen menu items that have to be set to make communication happen through a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-03 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010, Nate Duehr wrote: p.s. Before anyone thinks this is a plug or a rant either way for or against any technology mentioned above, be advised that I've been working on bugs like this my entire career, and watching engineers make the same mistakes over and over and over again

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-03 Thread Joe
I would strongly remind them that they are purchasing a system that has only ONE and only ONE supplier/source. This may not fit some of the bid requirements that some government agencies require. Joe Kris Kirby wrote: On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Scott Zimmerman wrote: Around here (Western PA)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-03 Thread no6b
At 4/3/2010 15:35, you wrote: I would strongly remind them that they are purchasing a system that has only ONE and only ONE supplier/source. This may not fit some of the bid requirements that some government agencies require. Joe A well-written sole source justification memo takes care of that.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-03 Thread mch
Besides, doesn't that assume they will be adding more user units to it? In this case, it's likely a one-shot deal, so they won't care about future sources. Joe M. On Sat 03/04/10 7:00 PM , n...@no6b.com sent: At 4/3/2010 15:35, you wrote: I would strongly remind them that they are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Scott Zimmerman
My biggest problem with the D-Star repeaters is that they didn't make them analog compatible. Knowing as little as I do about the D-star hardware, it would seem easy enough for Icom to have done so. All they would have needed to do would have been to look at the incoming signal, see if it was

RE: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Doug Bade
: Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor My biggest problem with the D-Star repeaters is that they didn't make them analog compatible. Knowing as little as I do about the D-star hardware, it would seem easy enough for Icom to have done so. All they would have needed to do would

RE: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Doug Bade
that are focused on alternate D-Star hardware and software devices. Doug KD8B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:54 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] D

RE: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread David Jordan
-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Bade Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor I would be glad to elaborate about D-Star Repeater conversions as there are multiple ways to do it now and Any

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Scott Zimmerman wrote: Around here (Western PA) the governments bought Icom D-Star radios for RACES. I had no objection to that since those radios can be used in analog modes with analog repeaters. Now they are wanting to get D-Star repeaters for RACES and emergency use.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Doug Bade wrote: I would be glad to elaborate about D-Star Repeater conversions as there are multiple ways to do it now and Any EDACS capable or Smartnet Capable repeater would do D-Star as both fundamentally have the parts to transmit and receive GMSK type waveforms

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread MCH
If you don't count the Icom scanning receivers. They CAN decode D-STAR. Joe M. Kris Kirby wrote: There's also a substantial base of users who like D-STAR because there isn't a scanner that can decode it.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread k7pfj
Unless you have a Aeroflex 3920 with the options you can scan DStar as well as Mototrbo and all others. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, CO 80504 303-736-9693 k7...@skybeam.com On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:24 AM, MCH wrote: If you don't count the Icom scanning receivers. They

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Doug Bade
I do not know that it needs to be handled... The day we have enough D-Star repeaters and users on the air that an out of town DX signal trips mine I will be tickled to death... not complainBecause JRRL did not put an equivalent to CTCSS or DSQ in the system does not make it need repair...

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread no6b
At 4/2/2010 09:49, you wrote: There's also a substantial base of users who like D-STAR because there isn't a scanner that can decode it. Funny you should mention that. A pair of bootleggers using D-STAR showed up on the input to a friend's 2 meter analog repeater. After a couple of months he