: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
We are going to try a tankless water heater (electric, not gaseous).
Heat pump was a big help this year.
Washer and dryer are pretty good but with 4 kids, they get used quite a
bit.
Chris
Kb0wlf
Replacing all
We are going to try a tankless water heater (electric, not gaseous).
Heat pump was a big help this year.
Washer and dryer are pretty good but with 4 kids, they get used quite a bit.
Chris
Kb0wlf
Replacing all sorts of old appliances helps in this category...
--SNIP--
Oh, the clothes are
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:53 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
I will now reveal to the Repeater-Builder list members the sure-fire way to
reduce electric bills: Get rid
Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Reed
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:42 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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The device works by changing the voltage
post.
Don, KD9PT
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From: Gary Schafer gascha...@comcast.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
This is funny. All they appear to be doing is placing a capacitor across
Don Kupferschmidt wrote:
Hi Gary,
I was pretty suspicious of what the unit was claimed to do so I didn't give
them any money. It's good that we have a reflector like this one with 3000
+ members on the list that can give their $0.02 as well as their technical
expertise / opinions.
When
I took the time to view their short video.
http://www.power-save.com/1200.html
They show the Amperage to the load (a motor) is changed with and
without the Power Saver. Notice I said Amperage not KiloWatt Hours.
KWH's are not referenced in the video, and is what you actually pay for
for
] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:54 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
I took the time to view their short video.
http://www.power-save.com/1200.html
They show the Amperage to the load (a motor) is changed
Gary Schafer wrote:
Kevin,
I think that you meant the amperage to the load (a motor) is UNCHANGED
with and without the device.
I wasn't very clear
What I meant was the amperage to the load from the first ammeter is
changed by the presence the unit. Of course, the amperage to the load
The kWh reading didn't change because the time was too short. If they ran
the test for an hour on, reset the meter, then an hour off you could have
more easily seen a result -- it wouldn't have mattered -- no savings.
Chuck
WB2EDV
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If you look closely, the
You always have to be on the look out for any product that states as seen
on TV
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From: Kevin Custer kug...@kuggie.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:33 PM
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Gary Schafer
: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:36 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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The kWh reading didn't change because the time was too short
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:33 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Gary Schafer wrote
.
Chuck
WB2EDV
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From: Gary Schafer gascha...@comcast.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
No you wouldn't have seen any change in the kwh reading in an hour because
, 2009 9:03 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
You misunderstood my comment. I agree, there would have been no difference
in the readings whether the device was on or off. However the kWh reading
would have changed had it been left on long
: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:54 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
I took the time to view their short video.
http://www.power-save.com/1200.html http://www.power-save.com/1200.html
They show the Amperage to the load (a motor) is changed
To all interested:
I have examined my customers energy bills and there is a power factor
number displayed on every bill, in this case .85 or 85%. Now I don't know
if the meter reader actually is reading that off the meter every month or
not, I suspect they are only interested in the kWh and
Forgot to add this:
It's kind of like the fuel powder you put in your gas tank to increase your
mileage.
AUSTIN Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott obtained a temporary
restraining order and limited asset freeze Monday against Forum Trading,
Inc. The states legal enforcement action charges the
for your comments.
Don Kupferschmidt, KD9PT
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From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:09 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Tom,
Excellent questions! The first is easy: Residences
-Builder] OT Power Factor
Hello group,
I need to chime in here and ask about a device that being sold as an
enhancement for saving electrical energy in a residence.
The device is called Power-Save 1200 and you can see it at
www.power-save.com. From what I can glean from the web site it's
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Hello group,
I need to chime in here and ask about a device that being sold as an
enhancement for saving electrical energy in a residence.
The device is called Power-Save 1200
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Chuck is right. Typically power factor correction is an industrial issue
(not residential). Perhaps the utilities are implementing power factor
correction penalties to resi customers in other
Yes, there are PF requirements for Energy Star products.
Chuck
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From: Scott Zimmerman n3...@repeater-builder.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
My question
the 807's...
73
Mike - N7ZEF
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From: Don Kupferschmidt d...@httpd.org
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Hello group,
I need to chime in here and ask about a device that being sold
Depends. Some customers are metered for reactive demand. It would matter then.
Chuck
WB2EDV
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From: Thomas Oliver
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:43 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Question for any
: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:43 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Question for any electrical engineers out there.
Are the meters on the side of buildings metering real power or apparent
power?
Is power factor correction worth doing if the power company is not dinging
, February 09, 2009 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Very interesting subject. People don't seem to be concerned about what kind
of energy they are receiving from electric power company suppliers. I've asked
previously for information about what people get
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of albemar...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Very interesting subject. People don't seem to be concerned about what kind
of energy they are receiving from electric power company
VAC, something needs to be done.
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Oliver
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:43 PM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT
in order to have the headroom to be able to implement
reductions, sometimes in multiple steps.
Chuck
WB2EDV
- Original Message -
From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Power Factor
Question for any electrical engineers out there.
Are the meters on the side of buildings metering real power or apparent power?
Is power factor correction worth doing if the power company is not dinging the
customer for low power factor?
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