Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-07 Thread Nate Duehr
On Oct 6, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Douglas wrote: Let me tell you a little story about this kind of problem. I had a similar situation on a VHF mastr II repeater where a signal sounded great one time and noisy the next. The problem turned out to be a hairline crack in a solder pad that was

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-07 Thread W3ML
Thanks Nate, I have read most all of the documents on RB and learned quite a bit about repeaters and the GEs. 73 John --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr n...@... wrote: On Oct 6, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Douglas wrote: Let me tell you a little story about this kind of

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread Douglas
Let me tell you a little story about this kind of problem. I had a similar situation on a VHF mastr II repeater where a signal sounded great one time and noisy the next. The problem turned out to be a hairline crack in a solder pad that was used to bridge two circuit boards and the output

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
John - A word of caution may be in order since you are dealing with a club. These days, the typical ham doesn't begin to comprehend the complexity of a repeater system. To many, one simply needs to go out a purchase new equipment, plug it all together, and it runs. Wrong! Don't let your club

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread W3ML
Doug, Thanks for the story. This next weekend I will go over the inside with a fine tooth comb and see if I can find any cracks or bad solder joints. My brain is going to but not just from this project. 73 John --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Douglas dougd...@... wrote: Let me

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread W3ML
Well Chuck, there will be no new radio unless I buy it out of my pocket and that won't happen as I need a new rotor. This club has no money. I was able to get a grant for emergency communications and that is how I ended up with the stuff we have now. My big problem seems to be that I took this

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread Eric Lowell
. You may have heard this before.   Good Luck, Eric (W1EL) Eric Lowell Eastern Maine Electronics Inc. 48 Loon Road Wesley ME 04686 eme@starband.net www.satnetmaine.com --- On Tue, 10/6/09, W3ML w...@arrl.net wrote: From: W3ML w...@arrl.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread W3ML
--- On Tue, 10/6/09, W3ML w...@... wrote: From: W3ML w...@... Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 5:36 PM   Well Chuck, there will be no new radio unless I buy it out

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-06 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Tue, 10/6/09, W3ML w...@arrl.net wrote: From: W3ML w...@arrl.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 5:36 PM Well Chuck, there will be no new As I have said before

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread W3ML
Hi Tom, I did crank up the power to 55 watts out of radio and that gives me 45 out of the duplexer. Decided on this wattage until I can figure the problem better. It is working better than before, but still having trouble. So from what you said about power coming out duplexer, the duplexer

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Chuck Kelsey
WB2EDV - Original Message - From: W3ML w...@arrl.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments Hi Tom, I did crank up the power to 55 watts out of radio

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Tom Parker
Hello W3ML, I've been following this thread over the weekend and I think the issue has been addressed. I would check the antenna and related connectors. In fact, for my 2 cents, I'd replace the G7 with a commercial grade antenna, such as a DB product or equal. Now, to your scenario today,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Lee Pennington
I've been following it too. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. K4LJP On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Tom Parker t...@ntin.net wrote: Hello W3ML, I've been following this thread over the weekend and I think the issue has been addressed. I would check the antenna

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread David Murman
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments I'd suggest turning the power up more. You have it set at about 50% and the transmitter may be intermittently spurious at that level. Watch the wattmeter when things act up and see if anything changes when you

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread W3ML
Thanks Tom, The wind was calm today and knowing that the sections tend to work loose, we screwed them together with sheet metal screws. I would like to get a DB antenna but 700 bucks is not in our budget. 73 John --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tom Parker t...@... wrote: Hello

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread W3ML
Message - From: W3ML w...@... To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments Hi Tom, I did crank up the power to 55 watts out of radio and that gives me 45 out

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Mark
John, I'll chime in here and agree with Chuck's suggestion to try a little more fire in the wire... It sounds as if your PA is less spurious now than before, but you need to dial it up more to eliminate all the spurious products. Solid state PAs, especially mobiles, are noted for this when

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Tom Parker
- Original Message - From: W3ML w...@... To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments Hi Tom, I did crank up the power to 55

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread W3ML
Thanks Mark, I will go read that article. Thought I read them all, since January, trying to learn all I can. That is when I decided to get into this repeater business. It has been a great learning experience for sure. 73 John, W3ML --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mark n9...@...

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread W3ML
, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments Hi Tom, I did crank up the power to 55 watts out of radio and that gives me 45 out of the duplexer. Decided on this wattage until I can figure the problem

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Tom Parker
: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments Hi Tom, I did crank up the power to 55 watts out of radio and that gives me 45 out of the duplexer. Decided on this wattage until I can figure

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Eric Lemmon
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of W3ML Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments Thanks Mark, I will go read that article. Thought I read them all

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread W3ML
- Original Message - From: W3ML w3ml@ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread W3ML
] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments Thanks Mark, I will go read that article. Thought I read them all, since January, trying to learn all I can. That is when I decided to get into this repeater business. It has been a great learning experience for sure. 73

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments Funny thing is when I hook the G7 to a regular 2 meter radio and transmit on simplex, it works really well, hearing stations far a way and putting out a solid signal. 73 John

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Eric Lemmon
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of W3ML Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:54 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments Thanks Tom, Yes, the advice is all good and I have tried several

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread TGundo 2003
direction. Let us know your findings! Tom W9SRV --- On Mon, 10/5/09, W3ML w...@arrl.net wrote: From: W3ML w...@arrl.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 7:33 PM Hi Tom, I did crank

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Nate Duehr
Just throwing a side-comment in here... How do you know if a PA is spurious or if you're bothering your spectrum neighbors? You MUST MEASURE IT. Beg, borrow, or steal the proper test gear for working on repeaters and this whole process of elimination by e-mail disappears... Spectrum

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radio for repeater use Response to Tom's comments

2009-10-05 Thread Nate Duehr
P.S. Before I get flame-broiled by the group for being mean... Realize that I'm not an ogre, and the answers you're getting from other folks might sound more friendly, and so far, they're all leading the right direction too, it'll just be a long journey to get there without the proper test