Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Joe
I've had luck finding these kinds of problems by bringing a spectrum 
analyzer to the site and connecting it to an antenna.  I look at 
10-20Mhz sections of the spectrum and try to find a spike that comes up 
at the same time as the interference.  It is time consuming and 
dependent upon the interference happening frequently, but it works quite 
well.  It beats sitting around trying to analyze the problem to death 
and you feel like you're at least doing something.  Sometimes you need 
to prove where the trouble is not happening help you focus on where it 
really is.

73, Joe, K1ike

On 8/20/2010 6:35 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
 I have paging intermod from 157.740 Mhz.




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-21 Thread Tim Sawyer
That's how I found 157.74. We're going back up on Tuesday to look some more. 
--
Tim
:wq

On Aug 21, 2010, at 4:52 AM, Joe wrote:

 I've had luck finding these kinds of problems by bringing a spectrum 
 analyzer to the site and connecting it to an antenna. I look at 
 10-20Mhz sections of the spectrum and try to find a spike that comes up 
 at the same time as the interference. 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Jeff DePolo

Before we get into the math, an important question that needs to be answered
is whether or not this mix occurs when your repeater transmitter is unkeyed.


--- Jeff WN3A

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 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation
 
   
 
 I have paging intermod from 157.740 Mhz. My receiver is on 
 144.540 Mhz. I'm 100% sure there is another transmitter 
 involved in the mix because sometimes the pager is 
 transmitting and I have no interference. 
 
 I have an intermod calculator program but it wants all the 
 known transmitters and the target receiver. But I need to 
 solve for an unknown transmitter. Is there a way to calculate 
 the other possible soruce(s)? 
 --
 Tim
 :wq
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
Most likely suspects would be 151.140 and 170.940 MHz.

Joe M.

Tim Sawyer wrote:
 I have paging intermod from 157.740 Mhz. My receiver is on 144.540 Mhz. I'm 
 100% sure there is another transmitter involved in the mix because sometimes 
 the pager is transmitting and I have no interference.  
 
 I have an intermod calculator program but it wants all the known transmitters 
 and the target receiver. But I need to solve for an unknown transmitter. Is 
 there a way to calculate the other possible soruce(s)?  
 --
 Tim
 :wq
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread Tim Sawyer
I'll watch those. How did you calculate them?
--
Tim
:wq

On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:38 PM, MCH wrote:

 Most likely suspects would be 151.140 and 170.940 MHz.
 
 Joe M.
 
 Tim Sawyer wrote:
  I have paging intermod from 157.740 Mhz. My receiver is on 144.540 Mhz. I'm 
  100% sure there is another transmitter involved in the mix because 
  sometimes the pager is transmitting and I have no interference. 
  
  I have an intermod calculator program but it wants all the known 
  transmitters and the target receiver. But I need to solve for an unknown 
  transmitter. Is there a way to calculate the other possible soruce(s)? 
  --
  Tim
  :wq
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
  
 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Intermod Calculation

2010-08-20 Thread MCH
2A-B solving for once for A and once for B.

Or, to make it more clear (maybe), the sum of your receiver and half the 
difference between the two (IOW, the frequency directly half way between 
two two others), and the sum of the full difference plus the paging 
transmitter frequency.

Putting it another way which might be easier to understand: The 
frequencies half way from your RX to the paging TX, and the frequency 
twice as far from the two (in the direction of the transmitter)

Either way, it's all 2A-B:
2(151.140) - 157.740 = 144.540
2(157.740) - 170.940 = 144.540

Joe M.

Tim Sawyer wrote:
 
 
 I'll watch those. How did you calculate them?
 --
 Tim
 :wq
 
 On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:38 PM, MCH wrote:
 
  

 Most likely suspects would be 151.140 and 170.940 MHz.

 Joe M.

 Tim Sawyer wrote:
  I have paging intermod from 157.740 Mhz. My receiver is on 144.540 
 Mhz. I'm 100% sure there is another transmitter involved in the mix 
 because sometimes the pager is transmitting and I have no interference.
 
  I have an intermod calculator program but it wants all the known 
 transmitters and the target receiver. But I need to solve for an 
 unknown transmitter. Is there a way to calculate the other possible 
 soruce(s)?
  --
  Tim
  :wq
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
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