Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread wd8chl
On 5/3/2010 12:08 PM, N1BUG wrote: I'm guessing I am not the first to want to do this... I want to use a UHF Micor for a link. I want to be able to stop the PL encode immediately when a user unkeys, but I want the controller to be able to hold the transmitter up (without PL tone) for sending

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread Jeff DePolo
I'm guessing I am not the first to want to do this... I want to use a UHF Micor for a link. I want to be able to stop the PL encode immediately when a user unkeys, but I want the controller to be able to hold the transmitter up (without PL tone) for sending IDs. There appears to be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread wd8chl
On 5/3/2010 1:08 PM, Jeff DePolo wrote: I'm guessing I am not the first to want to do this... I want to use a UHF Micor for a link. I want to be able to stop the PL encode immediately when a user unkeys, but I want the controller to be able to hold the transmitter up (without PL tone) for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread N1BUG
Jeff DePolo wrote: Pin 701 on the board (base of Q704) is PL Inhibit - pull to ground to kill the encoder. Thanks Jeff, I did notice P701 on the schematic. Any experience on whether a transistor will pull it low enough or do I need something better? Guess I'll try a transistor and see what

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread N1BUG
wd8chl wrote: The usual method we've used is to pull it to ground when you don't want tone with a transistor or a FET. You can remember though that, depending on your link rx, letting the Micor encode reverse burst will close the squelch quicker than just letting it coast. My experience is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread Jeff DePolo
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A) Jeff DePolo wrote: Pin 701 on the board (base of Q704) is PL Inhibit - pull to ground to kill the encoder. Thanks Jeff, I did notice P701 on the schematic. Any experience on whether

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread N1BUG
N1BUG wrote: Squelch tails are *probably* not going to be much of an issue since I plan to use AND squelch with PL and the infamous Micor carrier squelch at the receive end of the link. DUH! Not my best day... Looks like I will end up killing squelch crashes with an audio delay in any

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread Leroy A. M. Baptiste
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A) wd8chl wrote: The usual method we've used is to pull it to ground when you don't want tone with a transistor or a FET. You can remember though that, depending on your link rx, letting the Micor encode

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread Tony KT9AC
Would this still allow the reverse-burst to pass through, or just abruptly cut off? On 05/03/2010 12:14 PM, wd8chl wrote: On 5/3/2010 1:08 PM, Jeff DePolo wrote: I'm guessing I am not the first to want to do this... I want to use a UHF Micor for a link. I want to be able to stop the PL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread N1BUG
Leroy A. M. Baptiste wrote: I have a question for the group. What is reverse burst? And when is it used? Motorola radios. Leroy, I'm sure others can explain it better, but... Reverse burst was / is used by Motorola and others to eliminate squelch crashes at the receiving end of a comm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread N1BUG
Tony KT9AC wrote: Would this still allow the reverse-burst to pass through, or just abruptly cut off? Pin 701 on the board (base of Q704) is PL Inhibit - pull to ground to kill the encoder. Grounding pin 701 would kill the tone entirely, including reverse burst. Which is what I asked

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread Leroy A. M. Baptiste
, May 03, 2010 2:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A) Leroy A. M. Baptiste wrote: I have a question for the group. What is reverse burst? And when is it used? Motorola radios. Leroy, I'm sure others can explain

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread N1BUG
That's right Leroy, reverse burst was invented to overcome the problem of tone decoders being relatively slow to realize the tone went away and thus producing a somewhat long burst of noise before muting the speaker. Paul Leroy A. M. Baptiste wrote: Hi Paul, thanks, I think that

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder modification (TLN5731A)

2010-05-03 Thread Leroy A. M. Baptiste
Thanks again Paul, I really do appreciate it. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of N1BUG Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 2:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PL encoder