Re: librbcodec update; directory structure discussion

2011-07-20 Thread Dave Chapman
On 16/07/11 15:38, Jonathan Gordon wrote: On 14 July 2011 05:36, Sean Bartellwingedtachik...@gmail.com wrote: One issue raised about these changes is where the librbcodec files should be moved. My current version moves them to /rbcodec, with dsp, metadata, and codecs subdirectories. Saratoga

Re: GSoC project: Standalone audio library

2011-05-25 Thread Dave Chapman
Sean Bartell wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 09:22:07PM +0200, Al Le wrote: The initial focus will be on getting the library working, not on a nice API. In order to appeal to software other than Rockbox... IMO the API should be laid out first. How else can you say that the library works?

The next release

2010-10-11 Thread Dave Chapman
Hi, The Release 3.7, freeze on Monday thread seems to have been hijacked, so to bring the subject up again, are we freezing now? I'm also trying to catch up on Rockbox developments over the past few months, and am wondering if the theme breakage is a reason to bump to 4.0? I've read the

Re: Getting agreements

2010-10-10 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: I have a few problems with this idea. First, what is the bar to decide if we actually need to vote before a commit? everything? everything not trivial? If we're talking new features, then it could simply be anything that changes behaviour of Rockbox for users - i.e.

Re: Release 3.7, freeze on monday

2010-10-09 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: Lastly I'll remind the people that need reminding that everyone here is doing it as a hobby, when it doesnt become fun anymore people leave. The only people who could be considered having any authority to activly force someone to work on something (or not work on

Re: Release 3.7, freeze on monday

2010-10-09 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: On 9 October 2010 22:32, Dave Chapman d...@dchapman.com wrote: But my personal view is that features should only be added to Rockbox when there is a general concensus that it is a good idea. When 95% of devs don't express an opinion on a new feature, then I would read

Re: [RaaA] Weekly status report

2010-06-02 Thread Dave Chapman
Thomas Martitz wrote: I think most of us (including me) prefer andriod. I personally *strongly* prefer it since I had an HTC legend in my hands :) Is anyone uncomfortable with that? It's your project, so ultimately I think the choice is yours - you should port RaaA to whatever interests you.

Re: [RaaA] Move SDL stuff to target tree

2010-05-16 Thread Dave Chapman
pouly amaury wrote: What do you think about it? Do you have any ideas how my proposal could be improved? Or do you have any questions? Please join the discussion. Sounds ok for me, I like the idea of the simulator being a real target. Apologies for answering so late (too late in

Re: [RaaA] Move SDL stuff to target tree

2010-05-16 Thread Dave Chapman
Thomas Martitz wrote: My understanding of the purpose of RaaA is that it would use less and less of the Rockbox firmware code as time went on. Development of the sim should go in the opposite direction - using more and more Rockbox code. No, I don't think RaaA aims to use less and less

Re: [RaaA] Move SDL stuff to target tree

2010-05-16 Thread Dave Chapman
Frank Gevaerts wrote: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:23:36PM +0100, Dave Chapman wrote: I don't really think the simulator can use much more core rockbox code without becoming an emulator. I'm not saying that the uisim can use more Rockbox code, just that RaaA should use less, and that over

Re: Proposal for Bounty to get Linux Rockbox ported to the iPod Nano 4G and 5G

2010-05-01 Thread Dave Chapman
Paul Louden wrote: So I'm wondering if one easy (and free!) thing someone could do is to collect this information together in some kind of Future targets wiki page, to try and promote these as tasks people could work on. We should probably set some minimum requirement for the future target

Re: Handling NoDo features

2010-03-23 Thread Dave Chapman
Paul Louden wrote: On 3/23/2010 3:13 PM, Mike Giacomelli wrote: Anyway, without a rational the NODO list is kind of bizarre. We should have a So how do you give an objective rationale why one feature is worth the size, and another isn't? Some things will have to be subjective, it's just a

Re: Recognize the Apple remote FM tuner during boot

2010-01-29 Thread Dave Chapman
asettico wrote: I discover two statements ifdef-ed out in bootloader/ipod.c:313 since r7784 (the first revision of this file). Do you see any problem to enable those lines or something could get break? (Unfortunately I have no knowledge about the RB architecture and I can't build a FW now).

Re: Gigabeat S unstable

2009-10-29 Thread Dave Chapman
Rafaël Carré wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:46:50 +0100 Alex Parker parker.ale...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'd like to have the beast as unstable - it has a released bootloader and released beastpatcher versions for linux (32 and 64 bit) and windows, and the manual contains manual install

Re: Gigabeat S unstable

2009-10-29 Thread Dave Chapman
Alex Parker wrote: Hi All, I'd like to have the beast as unstable - it has a released bootloader and released beastpatcher versions for linux (32 and 64 bit) and windows, and the manual contains manual install instructions. Only mac is missing, owing to a lack of developers on that platform.

Target classifications v2 ?

2009-10-11 Thread Dave Chapman
All, I've been thinking a bit about the target classifications, and have come to the conclusion that we now have a large number of ports, in a wide variety of states of completion, that the current 3 categories is not enough. I would like to see the addition of a top-tier category - one

Re: Branch for updated/initial bootloaders for USB-enabled PP and AMS Sansas (and their installers)

2009-07-08 Thread Dave Chapman
Thomas Martitz wrote: I've just created a branch at http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/branches/bootloader_ams_pp/ Use this branch to commit version number changes or whatever needed to get nice bootloaders out for affected targets. Also use this for the installers (mkamsboot, sansapatcher,

Re: portalplayer bootloader versions

2009-07-08 Thread Dave Chapman
Frank Gevaerts wrote: Portalplayer bootloader versions are a bit confusing: Sansa bootloaders have nice version numbers. The current version is 5.0, the next will be 6.0 Released H10 and mr100 bootloaders don't have version numbers, and use svn revisions instead. H10 is r12862:12866-070320,

Re: Branch for updated/initial bootloaders for USB-enabled PP and AMS Sansas (and their installers)

2009-07-08 Thread Dave Chapman
Thomas Martitz wrote: Late reply. I don't see any problem with the branch anyway. Any time would have been too late, as you had already created the branch... Just because you don't see a problem with the branch, doesn't mean no-one else does/will. Anyway, I didn't know the usual way of

Re: jdgordon: r21307 - trunk/apps

2009-06-17 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: OK, nice patch... still not as clean as mine (I'm entitled to my opinion..) but if thats what it takes to be accepted so be it. I'll test it out tonight What about the subject of this thread? Will you be reverting r21307? Regards, Dave.

Re: jdgordon: r21307 - trunk/apps

2009-06-16 Thread Dave Chapman
mai...@svn.rockbox.org wrote: Date: 2009-06-16 07:14:51 +0200 (Tue, 16 Jun 2009) New Revision: 21307 Log Message: For those who dont have the memory of a Something that has really good memory show in the main menu that there is nothing to resume to stop the annoying nothing to resume splash

Re: Error building ipodpatcher

2009-06-11 Thread Dave Chapman
Rafaël Carré wrote: The problem is htole16 and htole32 are defined in endian.h (under ifdef __USE_BSD) I believe this is a bug in Ubuntu, but if other OS (BSD?) provide these functions they should be under #ifndef htole16 ? I don't think this is a Ubuntu problem - those macros were added with

Re: Theme licenses

2009-03-05 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonas Häggqvist wrote: A while ago, it was decided that themes on the fabled theme site should be required to be licensed exclusively CC-BY-SA. This however, results in some problems. For one thing, we can't reuse parts of themes in the Rockbox defaults since they're part of the code, and hence

Re: FS#9873 - Utilise buttons for playlisting

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: I'm sure I've said it before, and I doubt I'm alone... there is a difference between customizable buttons (which everyone agrees will be a support nightmare) and allowing the user to choose between a few select options for individual buttons when there is a free button to

Re: 5.5G iPod shutdown confusing the boot code?

2009-02-27 Thread Dave Chapman
Alex Bennee wrote: Hi, I've noticed that sometimes when Rockbox shuts down it leave the boot code confused as to the charge state of the battery. The iPod will refuse to boot with the usual Menu key and when plugged in to the USB reports very low battery. Once I give it the two finger salute

Re: mcuelenaere: r20055 - in trunk/firmware: drivers export target/arm/tcc780x/cowond2 target/mips/ingenic_jz47xx/onda_vx747

2009-02-21 Thread Dave Chapman
mai...@svn.rockbox.org wrote: Date: 2009-02-19 23:15:02 +0100 (Thu, 19 Feb 2009) New Revision: 20055 Log Message: Add generic touchscreen driver which allows calibration (apps/ layer will follow later). [snip] Added: trunk/firmware/drivers/touchscreen.c [snip] +/* Based on

Re: kugel: r19826 - trunk/wps

2009-01-23 Thread Dave Chapman
mai...@svn.rockbox.org wrote: Date: 2009-01-23 19:34:06 +0100 (Fri, 23 Jan 2009) New Revision: 19826 Log Message: Fix wpsbuild.pl not installing all required fonts Even though it turns out that it was due to a bug, I had always thought that the behaviour of only including the font required

Re: License of code in utils/MTP/

2009-01-10 Thread Dave Chapman
Rafaël Carré wrote: If sendfirm_win.c is redistributed with the LGPL, it can be linked with any proprietary library, no ? Yes, I think so. Or maybe BSD. Although we can only do that if we know the license from the code taken from creative.com, and it still means that we can't incorporate

License of code in utils/MTP/

2009-01-08 Thread Dave Chapman
All, This has been discussed a few times in IRC over the past couple of days, but I thought it would be useful to bring it here - especially as the two people responsible for that code (mcuelenaere and nicolasp) haven't been involved in those discussions. For those that may not know,

Re: bagder: r19675 - www

2009-01-04 Thread Dave Chapman
mai...@svn.rockbox.org wrote: Date: 2009-01-05 00:46:44 +0100 (Mon, 05 Jan 2009) New Revision: 19675 Log Message: The Gigabeat S is considered supported as of now How is it supported? There is no manual, no Windows installation instructions, no dual-boot install instructions, no

Re: Default settings for the release

2008-12-16 Thread Dave Chapman
Björn Stenberg wrote: Paul Louden wrote: my battery percentage will appear to be down a percent or two just from browsing the menus. I we need hard data before playing the think of the runtime card. I think a user can still scroll down. Of course he can. So why do we not choose 3 seconds

Re: Release schedule proposal

2008-11-05 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: I'm not against the idea, but I wonder what the point of releasing so often is unless there was something big? The point is to keep the most recent stable release recent. We want users to (in general) use the releases, and if we stick to a relatively short (and fixed)

Re: jdgordon: r18832 - trunk/apps

2008-10-24 Thread Dave Chapman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: 2008-10-19 05:58:33 +0200 (Sun, 19 Oct 2008) New Revision: 18832 Log Message: Dont show lines which have no info in the id3 viewer screen. Modified: trunk/apps/screens.c Why was this feature change committed without any pre-commit discussion at all? It

Re: dave: r18836 - in trunk: [subject truncated]

2008-10-19 Thread Dave Chapman
Rafaël Carré wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: 2008-10-19 16:11:01 +0200 (Sun, 19 Oct 2008) New Revision: 18836 Log Message: Add e200v2 and m200v2 targets. Move the telechips lcd-ssd1815.c (currently used by Logik DAX and m200v1 ports) driver up in the target tree

Re: get back into rockbox and accessibility

2008-10-13 Thread Dave Chapman
Daniel Dalton wrote: I was just trying to look for a solution to accessibility, since it doesn't seem to be a priority. Given the current level of accessibility Rockbox provides, how can you say that the Rockbox developers don't give it a priority. Of course it can be improved (as can all

Re: get back into rockbox and accessibility

2008-10-13 Thread Dave Chapman
Daniel Dalton wrote: What about maintaining this compilation of patches on a forum thread or on a bug tracker entry, instead of the SVN repository ? We could do that, or perhaps another way would be to put the accessibility directory in the root eg just above trunk... So then there is a sub

Re: Title case or sentence case?

2008-08-19 Thread Dave Chapman
Marc Guay wrote: My eyes are drawn straight away to the words playback and radio: these look out of place here (sloppy, even) without capitalisation. I don't think Rockbox should differ from the vast majority of English software (UK, US or otherwise) in this respect. I think it goes without

Re: Title case or sentence case?

2008-08-18 Thread Dave Chapman
Paul Louden wrote: XavierGr wrote: I have to agree, sentence case seems the way to go. Title case is used mostly in English and not other languages. Well this discussion is mostly about English, since pretty much no other language uses it regularly anyway and I don't think we'd impose title

Title case or sentence case?

2008-08-16 Thread Dave Chapman
I've recently been trying to sync the Catalan translation, and have noticed the inconsistent use of title and sentence case in the lang files. A recent(-ish) patch (FS#8538 - committed as r16663) fixed a lot of inconsistencies by making more strings in english.lang use Title Case. However, I

Re: jdgordon: r17690 - in trunk/apps: . gui

2008-06-05 Thread Dave Chapman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: 2008-06-05 10:20:39 +0200 (Thu, 05 Jun 2008) New Revision: 17690 Log Message: make %V a little simpler. only the x and y values have to be specified now (i.e %V|0|0|| ) default values are as follows: width - lcd width - the x value height - lcd height - y

Re: XML settings file from settings_list.c

2008-02-13 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: On 13/02/2008, Daniel Stenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except for the fun of doing all this, what's the big benefit with this in the first place? There needs to be a reason? It will be much nicer setting up the config than having to find the find the setting in the

Re: XML settings file from settings_list.c

2008-02-13 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: On 13/02/2008, Dave Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't all those things also (with some effort) be possible on target, and much more convenient? i.e. context-sensitive help in the settings screens and improving the structure/naming so users don't have trouble

gcc, armv5, armv6 and multilib

2007-10-13 Thread Dave Chapman
All, When trying to compile code for the TCC77x (arm946e-s core - an armv5 cpu), I got an error saying that my libgcc.a uses FPA instructions but that my code did not. After some googling, the problem appears to be that armv4 (our existing ARM targets) and armv5 use a different floating

Re: IRC channel

2007-09-20 Thread Dave Chapman
I'm also strongly in favour of keeping a single channel - I'm not that annoyed by off-topic chat (I can easily ignore it), and very much like the fact that the Rockbox community is one where there is no strong distinction between devs and users - every user is encouraged to help themselves and

Re: Licensing and Copyright Issues

2007-09-14 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonas Häggqvist wrote: Dave Chapman wrote: 1) We start to incorporate GPLv3 code like espeak into Rockbox. Our own any version license allows us to do that, but then Rockbox as a whole would be GPLv3. For the reasons Daniel gave in his very first response, I don't see this as being

Re: Licensing and Copyright Issues

2007-09-11 Thread Dave Chapman
Daniel Stenberg wrote: Well, that's your view but not the view of many others. See kerneltrap and the GPLv3 flame fest on the Linux kernel mailing list. Companies like Tivo have used GPLv2 fine for many years and they have contributed their changes back and thus helped improving Linux. They

Re: christian: r14613 - trunk/firmware/target/arm

2007-09-05 Thread Dave Chapman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: 2007-09-05 01:29:42 +0200 (Wed, 05 Sep 2007) New Revision: 14613 Log Message: get experimental usb stack compiling Modified: trunk/firmware/target/arm/usb-fw-pp502x.c Christian, This commit breaks USB detection on at least my ipod video when

Re: Porting time estimate

2007-09-01 Thread Dave Chapman
RaeNye wrote: My advice would be to try and get other people interested - either existing Rockbox developers who may be interested in working on new targets, or (more likely to succeed) other skilled Sansa Express owners. BTW, try to check if the Sansa Express is similar (HW-wise) to

Re: Porting time estimate

2007-08-31 Thread Dave Chapman
Brendon Costa wrote: With that sort of information, how long do others think it might take me to work on a port of rockbox if I say spend one or two hours a day on it? As an example the Gigabeat F/X port took about a year from start to a functioning Rockbox port, and the developers had

Re: Telechips-based players

2007-07-31 Thread Dave Chapman
Basil Dozhdalev wrote: Hello, Had anyone ever try to develop Rockbox for Telechips-based MP3-players? I wouldn't say I'm trying to develop Rockbox for the Telechips players, but I do have such a device (a small flash-based MP3/WMA player with DAB radio). This has a TCC773L. I've been

Re: Proposal - Rockbox Maintainers

2007-07-23 Thread Dave Chapman
Daniel Stenberg wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Dave Chapman wrote: I was wondering what other developers thought about introducing the concept of formal maintainers to Rockbox. I think it sounds like a very sensible idea! I've made a start on a MAINTAINERS file, which I'm appending

Proposal - Rockbox Maintainers

2007-07-22 Thread Dave Chapman
Hi all, I was wondering what other developers thought about introducing the concept of formal maintainers to Rockbox. A lot of large open source projects seem to work this well - an example is the ffmpeg maintainers list here: http://svn.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg/trunk/MAINTAINERS?view=co I see a

Re: christian: r13620 - in trunk/firmware: drivers/audio export

2007-06-12 Thread Dave Chapman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified: trunk/firmware/drivers/audio/tlv320.c === --- trunk/firmware/drivers/audio/tlv320.c 2007-06-11 13:32:29 UTC (rev 13619) +++ trunk/firmware/drivers/audio/tlv320.c 2007-06-11 23:39:07 UTC

Re: Towards restructured manual

2007-05-12 Thread Dave Chapman
Dominik Riebeling wrote: On 5/10/07, Martin Arver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think we should use this approach for all features not supported by a certain target? Like sw/hw-codec stuff, color display hmm, I think that would make the manual somewhat torn, which isn't good either.

Re: Improving simulator

2007-05-10 Thread Dave Chapman
Christian Gmeiner wrote: The big plus point is that we dont need to care about the simulator with #ifdef's anymore as the simulator is a normal target. I don't see how that will happen - won't it just mean replacing #ifdef SIMULATOR with #ifdef SDL_TARGET ? Looking at the current code, there

Re: Improving simulator

2007-05-10 Thread Dave Chapman
Christian Gmeiner wrote: 2007/5/10, Dave Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't see how that will happen - won't it just mean replacing #ifdef SIMULATOR with #ifdef SDL_TARGET ? No you are wrong.. we will use the target tree feature: firmware/target/sdl/* How would adding a new target help

Re: remove themes from svn builds?

2007-04-15 Thread Dave Chapman
Dominik Riebeling wrote: I rather think we should remove all themes from the svn builds and rename the fonts package to extras package (or something similar) that includes fonts and themes Sounds a good idea. We could also make the archived builds fullzip archives which include both themes

ipod 3g (was: Re: dave: firmware crt0.S,1.73,1.74)

2006-07-18 Thread Dave Chapman
Daniel Stenberg wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen, we have sound on the 3rd Generation ipods. Thanks to Daniel Ankers for debugging. It turns out the problem was simply that we were calling the FIQ handler incorrectly - everything else was fine.

Re: closing old bug reports?

2006-07-16 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: hey, i was having a quick look through the bug reports and especially the old ones have had no comments for 3+ months except asking weather the bug still exsists. How long do we wait for an answer before closing the reports? Don't forget that Rockbox has been in

Re: mp3_encoder.c has CR-LF line endings in CVS

2006-06-11 Thread Dave Chapman
Simon M. wrote: Maybe a developer with write-access to cvs could upload a version of mp3_encoder.c with unix line endings please. Done.

3.0 - What MUST be done?

2006-05-31 Thread Dave Chapman
Hi, I agree with the people saying that we shouldn't release 3.0 or come out of feature freeze until it's ready. But one of the problems, is that it isn't clear (at least to me), what are the outstanding tasks that MUST be done before we are happy to release 3.0. So my suggestion is that we (in

Re: Help on building for Archos

2006-04-05 Thread Dave Chapman
Jvo Studer wrote: gcc uclpack.o src/libucl.a -o ../uclpack ld: archive: src/libucl.a has no table of contents, add one with ranlib(1) (can't load from it) make[2]: *** [../uclpack] Error 1 make[1]: *** [uclpack] Error 2 make: *** [tools] Error 2 I don't have the SH compiler installed on my

Move id3.[ch] and dependencies into apps/ ?

2006-02-12 Thread Dave Chapman
All, I seem to recall that the moving of id3.[ch] and related higher-level mpeg code from firmware/ to apps/ has been mentioned a few times, and no-one seemed to object to the idea. I did a quick test this afternoon, and tried to move the following files from firmware/ to apps/: id3.[ch]

Re: Status of some ports to new targets

2006-02-04 Thread Dave Chapman
Greg Haerr wrote: : iPod Video : : Rockbox works on it, but there's no audio. No one seems to have worked very : hard yet at figuring it out. This probably takes some dissassembly. Otherwise : this of course resembles the Color and Nano models. Why can't we use the code that the

Re: Putting the user in the loop

2005-11-04 Thread Dave Chapman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and one of the most important principles you learn is to put the user in the loop when you do interface design. I so happy I'm not alone in this! One better way would be to have polls on the rockbox site on these issues, with questions such as Do you have the