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I'm not jumping on his bandwagon as thinking that is the ONLY way to get
there, but it seems he has been thinking about this, and his proposal makes
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once you get your segment messiness set up on the alien canvas
thing.)
(I've just come from a mission to review the current state of things on the
notation front for Ubuntu Studio, in case you wonder where all this
contemplation of the meaning of life stuff is coming from.)
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it more
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I see a number of problems with the organic way Rosegarden has accumulated
features, but everything we have is useful to somebody, and can't be
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the will of the people,
ie. the current users, then percussion notation is running ahead by a
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. Now I'm back to the rat race, and not having
time for much of anything at all. Bah humbug. I really miss my old job, and
all the free time I used to have.
So does Rosegarden.
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No. I think that it is caused by NotationGroup::calculateBeam() in
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So noted, and thanks for the legwork, Pedro.
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On Saturday 01 December 2007, you wrote:
My own rosegarden is actually already patched.
You mean you could have expressed your suggestion in patch form, and you
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On Saturday 01 December 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
next week or something? As long as we make our August target, everything
will be super.
One thing to straighten out: the out of the box default install doesn't have
any percussion key maps for GM and/or there is some elusive bug here
On Saturday 01 December 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
Investigating...
Nevermind. Forgot I had screwed around with my autoload for some previous
test. Seems to be fine.
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though.
Does it?
Manually select/delete all events except in bar 11.
Crash.
Just big empty segment with events still in bar 11. Select everything
selectable from matrix, delete. Crash.
Humbug. I quit.
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documentation to our situation. Hopefully somebody can copy the change over,
and feed me a little hand holding so I can learn how to wipe my own nose next
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because it basically didn't add anything nice.
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On Saturday 08 December 2007, Vince Negri wrote:
repository. But the popular packman repository (so popular that the
10.3 installer gives you the opportunity to add it during the install)
has 1.6.0 RPMs already.
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to
go to bed so I can go back to the horrible time sucking rat race tomorrow,
but this seems like it deserves some real thought.
(Or we could choose an example for the tour that doesn't so flagrantly involve
what must be hand-edited LilyPond output.)
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No, apparently not. Irritating, isn't it? I wonder what the hell happened?
I hadn't had to log in since I can't remember when.
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been quick enough to pick it up just yet.
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It would be nice if we could do the same kind of thing.
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On Saturday 22 December 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
I'm not sure if anybody has picked up 1.6.1 yet, with us releasing it in
the middle of a big holiday season for a lot of people.
Oh, but to continue that thought... Usually there is nothing you can click to
have a new version
to have to sit back down and
walk quietly away from this one, because I know almost nothing about our
build system.
p.s. 1.6.1 should be uploaded to debian today.
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On Sunday 23 December 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/bran
This finally worked. Proposed changes to the instructions committed in
website branch.
svn co
https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/branches/stable_1_6
On Sunday 23 December 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
Bleargh.
What the bloody hell? They only diff on the version numbers, and some trivial
build files? How is that possible? The stable release doesn't have the new
track headers thing, and doesn't have the glazunov bug. Does
On Sunday 23 December 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
Damn, I'm losing my sanity or something.
OK, I'll build 1.6.1 and if what diff is showing me is true than it must
have released with the showstopping glazunov bug.
You really are losing your sanity, Michael. If you keep talking
to send a copy of the .rg file, so
we can see for ourselves what's going wrong.
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I just stumbled across this interesting tidbit during a bit of random
googling:
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don't have time to bother with this just now. But it does seem like
we could manage something better than the present scheme. The ensuing
conversation on the other list seemed to support the idea that there are
other users who find the current scheme too obtuse.
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On Saturday 05 January 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
the first word down in either tutorial, but I'm really hoping to get
something done tomorrow.
Or even now. I should note that I've never been one to bother with parallel
installed versions, so I'm reverting to the production 1.6.1
the first clue what to do about any
of that, so you're stuck waiting on someone to follow along eventually.
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mix so often. I bet this has been true for ages.
I think I will file this bug after all.
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On Saturday 12 January 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
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guess I could have started the other way around, and just stuck a bool in
there first to make sure I can actually use this information to produce the
intended result, but I only thought of that after beginning on the GUI end.
Which
porting and 2.0
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On Sunday 13 January 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
Here you go, Mr. Waffle.
All work and no play makes Michael a dull boy. All work and no play makes
Michael a dull boy. All work and no play makes Michael a dull boy. All work
and no play makes Michael a dull boy. All work and no play
You know you've been working on music software too long when you're putting in
debug traces with letters like A B C, and when you get to G you go back to A
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enough without laying this on your plate
too. You have no perspective from which to even try to appreciate what we're
going on about, so leave it up to us to figure out what we need to
accomplish, and try to stay handy to help with the code details if we get
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, and it's worth trying this approach first.
It's not what real sequencers do, and I'm not sure about real notation
editors either, but we do get to make our own rules here, since this isn't a
clone of any other particular application.
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On Friday 25 January 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
Excellent! I'll play with it directly, I assure you.
I realize your work is still in progress, but a couple of initial thoughts...
1) I think I'd make convert existing segments the default, or KConfig the
setting of the radio button
On Friday 25 January 2008, Arnout Engelen wrote:
That's a good idea.
Committed a first version (only transposition, not clefs or
highest/lowest notes and a little rough around the edges) to trunk, rev
8583.
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On Friday 25 January 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
Uh. 3) I notice the segment color doesn't carry through. If that isn't
part of your plan, I think it should be. If that isn't implemented yet, no
problem at all. I'm only mentioning it in passing, on my way to bed.
4) This doesn't set
wrong
without looking at your patch. I know I managed to do that with the track
parameters stuff, so I can probably figure out the piece you're missing if I
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application, including the big dollar stuff.
It's just that sometimes I wonder at it all. A rankett? A crumhorn? A
pommer? My goodness but that's a thorough list!
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Great, thanks! I got it off-list, and I'll update everything before the day
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but since uptake of 1.6.1 was not very good, I think I'm inclined to just
save it all for 1.7.0.
1. http://rosegarden.wiki.sourceforge.net/Things+To+Do+for+1.7.0
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it becomes apparent that it's in an infinite loop) and copy the results, then
paste them into your report.
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on other people to make up their minds about something.
Plus, of course, I don't have to get someone else to do this kind of thing
anymore, so I ran with it.
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printed with LilyPond. I just haven't gotten
into the logic side of things to see what to stick where how, and so forth.
I hope to accomplish something this week, and maybe get this useful enough to
merge back into trunk/ by the weekend.
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On Monday 04 February 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
inspiration from was actually printed with LilyPond. I just haven't gotten
into the logic side of things to see what to stick where how, and so forth.
Better example that actually shows variously arrayed system brackets mixed
with piano
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
Better example that actually shows variously arrayed system brackets mixed
with piano brackets:
Which brings up another point, now that I think about it. When printing
individual parts, everybody would want an Adagio and so
,
it doesn't do anything yet.
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think...
13 tall times an even 9 columns is 117, which is the number of .rgd files I
have in /usr/share/blah to a number. So yeah, they all show up here.
I'm back to damn if I know. Maybe somebody else can offer more insightful
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/SegmentChangePlayableRangeCommand.o]
Error 1
make[1]: *** [RGbuild/CMakeFiles/RosegardenCommands.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2
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On Saturday 09 February 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
show-stopping crashes too. Most common causes of problems are from
forgetting to add a file, or from committing something without checking to
make sure it actually builds first.
...and making sure it actually runs without show-stopping
On Wednesday 06 February 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
Right. That's just an example of what this is supposed to do. At the
moment, it doesn't do anything yet.
It still doesn't, but I'm closer and closer. I've been screwing around with
this for hours today, and still haven't worked out
On Saturday 09 February 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
One of these times I'm going to get most of it working, and then I can iron
out the kinks from there.
FUCKIN' A!!!
Straight out of the preview script, with no supplemental hacking!!! I still
have to test this for breakage
On Sunday 10 February 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
doesn't get the bracket we call for, which is surely a LilyPond bug.
I wonder. The original is of course in LilyPond too. But...
Ah. Well, one difference is we use \new instead of \context for this...
OK, I switched it all around
On Sunday 10 February 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
The only thing I see bad wrong is the indentation stuff is all to hell.
Plus I haven't tried with a straight up example yet.
Now I have. Who knows what horrible surprises might lurk ahead, but I've made
every reasonable effort to make
connection, although it will be trickier.
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before I decide how I feel about the new one. I'm not committed either way
at this point.
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started on one of our lists.
That makes three of you with a similar problem, and I have no doubt there is a
real bug here. I just don't know what to do about it at all.
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a lot of opportunity for a sneaky crash to show
up, and it looks good to me.
Thanks for implementing your own idea!
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remedy before I get to screwing around with something that might eat a lot of
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, and for the rest, I think I'd vote for showing the
clef etc. for the first note in the segment when you're at the opening
position before any bars are at the left margin yet.
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On Sunday 17 February 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
I'm not sure how to investigate this one.
But it definitely happened again. That quick tie demo thing I did way early
this morning on the way out the door was still sitting here, and I came home
to find my CPU has been sitting here pegged
, just simple, disposable test documents related to
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Now it's the GUI eating 99% of my CPU, and all I did was change the color for
a couple of segments. I think there must be a memory leak or something.
This is really odd behavior.
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On Saturday 23 February 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
Now it's the GUI eating 99% of my CPU, and all I did was change the color
for a couple of segments. I think there must be a memory leak or
something. This is really odd behavior.
Notation view. I had a notation view of the entire
Put move to staff above/below on the right click menu before continuing with
the tutorial. (Since it took you 15 minutes to figure out where these new
functions were.):wq
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On Sunday 02 March 2008, 최윤석 wrote:
version make reference to svn pot file.
(https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/branches/stable_
1 _6)
Thanks!
how to send this file?
If you attach it to an email directly to me, I'll deal with it.
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On Sunday 02 March 2008, Philippe Macaire wrote:
Hi RG-devs,
Hi Phillipe. Your message is on my TODO List. I just don't have time to get
to it again today. I wanted you to know somebody saw your post.
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On Monday 03 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
Hi Phillipe. Your message is on my TODO List. I just don't have time to
get to it again today. I wanted you to know somebody saw your post.
Sorry we're still ignoring you. I really hope we don't make you decide that
trying to do some work
document it as well. (Added note, and updated other stuff
on the wiki while I was thinking about it.)
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is a good start. I will
build and test before committing, but just at the moment I need to do
something about feeding my family, before my wife winds up going to prison
for my murder.
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Committed revision 8706, and further updated the wiki.
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something with me, so I suppose I shall carry on.)
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On Monday 10 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
From here, I welcome anything else you or anyone else might do to make all
this even better, but I am not open to anyone pronouncing that what I spent
a long weekend tormenting myself with is not good enough, or the wrong
approach. I'm glad
are. I never did finish doing anything about that first time
welcome thing, like we discussed months and months ago. I think I did make a
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Should we make a 1.6.2 in the meantime?
I noticed the commits, but it looks like you did this new stuff only in the
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