Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: add a digest on the compressed payload content (#163)

2017-03-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
What MD5? Besides being hopelessly outdated and vulnerable, nothing besides rpm 
-K actually verifies it. Yum/dnf certainly does not. And it lives in the 
signature header so you can just modify it at will.

Repository formats are just not relevant here, at all, no matter which way 
they're signed.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: add a digest on the compressed payload content (#163)

2017-03-01 Thread Colin Walters
Okay, but that'd also be caught by MD5, right?  So...do we expect every package 
system to verify *both* the rpm-md checksum and this one?  Running SHA256 or 
whatever *is* pretty cheap, I know.

Perhaps enough people rely on "untrusted rpm-md fetched over http + GPG signed 
RPMs" that we have to fix this.  But I think greater security comes from 
pushing everyone to do [cert pinned 
rpm-md](https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5372).

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: add a digest on the compressed payload content (#163)

2017-03-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
What on earth does rpm-md have to do with this? It exists on an entirely 
different level, and has checksums on the entire package file, at the time of 
repository generation. Files can get corrupted and truncated in transit from 
rpmbuild to a repository. That has happened in Fedora repos, people were not so 
happy when a malformed Thunderbird package found its way through all the 
alleged signature checking etc.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: add a digest on the compressed payload content (#163)

2017-03-01 Thread Colin Walters
In practice though, people shouldn't be using raw `rpm` to install RPMs.  They 
should (and 90% of the time are) using a higher level system like zypper, yum, 
or rpm-ostree.  

These systems all consume "rpm-md/yum" metadata, which obviously today has a 
checksum over the content, which can be verified without opening the RPM.

I know they're not the same - having a checksum just over the content as 
opposed to header+content should (AIUI) allow us to GPG sign without 
invalidating the content checksum (right?).

But it's surprising to me that we'd do something here without (apparently) 
considering how it interacts with rpm-md.


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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: add a digest on the compressed payload content (#163)

2017-03-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
Closed #163.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: add a digest on the compressed payload content (#163)

2017-03-01 Thread Panu Matilainen
Initial implementation in commit 91aa0786cf3b2e34de01c586427952de6d0d9b40.

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Re: [Rpm-maint] [rpm-software-management/rpm] RFE: add a digest on the compressed payload content (#163)

2017-02-21 Thread Panu Matilainen
Thinking about it a bit more, there are many other challenges with the multiple 
intermediate digest snapshots: the compression stream is created on 
file-by-file basis which isn't well suited for this purpose, as one file might 
be just a few bytes and the next one gigabytes, we'd presumably want equally 
sized chunks.

Maybe best to initially punt the multiple snapshots idea but leave room for 
future expansion: make the digest tag a string array, and define the contents 
as one or more digest snapshots where the last one covers the entire payload. 
Or something like that.

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