Re: [RRG] Consensus check: renumbering - missing dimension

2008-08-26 Thread Eliot Lear
Christopher Morrow wrote: stateless-autoconfig is entirely not sufficient for site admins to use in a 'renumbering' event. There are many items passed out in DHCP responses which are used by the end systems and not included in stateless-autoconfig. Existing practices account for these items via

Re: [RRG] Consensus check: renumbering - question lacks detail

2008-08-26 Thread Robin Whittle
I am not responding to the poll: http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=ziu439pxxpcx33da because I think the question is far too simple. It doesn't split up the various networks according to their size or according to whether they are on PI or PA addresses. I would answer differently

Re: [RRG] Consensus check: renumbering - missing dimension

2008-08-26 Thread Tim Chown
As someone running a dual-stack v6 enterprise (smallish), I think I agree with everything written in the last few posts. Brian says that enterprises will want DHCPv6, for the reasons Dale says (SLAAC being 'distasteful' and the complexity of privacy addresses), but also DHCP is the model that

Re: [RRG] Consensus check: renumbering - missing dimension

2008-08-26 Thread Bruce Curtis
On Aug 24, 2008, at 6:22 PM, Tony Li wrote: Do folks really feel that stateless autoconfig is a significant step forward vs. DHCP? Current dual-stack site admins would be especially welcome to opine. Tony When we enabled IPv6 on our whole campus network the main issue was that

Re: [RRG] Consensus check: renumbering - missing dimension

2008-08-26 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 26 aug 2008, at 17:30, Templin, Fred L wrote: clients can contact relays via link-local multicast. That is exactly the problem. On 802.11 networks multicasts are sent at a very low speed for compatibility and because there are no ACKs for multicasts, so they use up a lot of

RE: [RRG] Consensus check: renumbering - missing dimension

2008-08-26 Thread Templin, Fred L
-Original Message- From: Iljitsch van Beijnum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:46 AM To: Templin, Fred L Cc: Routing Research Group Subject: Re: [RRG] Consensus check: renumbering - missing dimension On 26 aug 2008, at 17:30, Templin, Fred L wrote: clients