Re: [S-Scale Modeling] real world track S gauge track (or do-the-math)

2005-10-06 Thread pieter_roos
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Rollain Mercier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP of interesting stuff Incidentally, the other end of the spectrum was the 2 foot gauge railroads here in Maine laid with 25 lb rail. That would equate to painting the rails on ties in S Gauge!... Unless my math is

[S-Scale Modeling] Re: real world track S gauge track (or do-the-math)

2005-10-06 Thread rbnicholson2001
--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Tom Hawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: [somebody] The BNSF main line is closer to 148. . . .As Don Thompson has already pointed out, there has never been track out there in the real world with a rail height greater

Re: [S-Scale Modeling] real world track S gauge track (or do-the-math)

2005-10-06 Thread Rollain Mercier
and he notes - If we use the rule of thumb that an inch of rail height equals 18 lbs per yard, then the theoretical rail height would be less than 1 3/4 tall. A second coat of paint would be necessary for the stickler, but you are right - code 40 is about as close as you can get In actual

[S-Scale Modeling] Re: mech refer

2005-10-06 Thread pieter_roos
Hi Roy; You might also find the following articles interesting: Modeling PFE 57-foot reefer cars Railroad Model Craftsman, September 1990 page 57 ( 57FOOT, PFE, PROVIDENZA, JIM, REEFER, SUPERDETAIL, FREIGHTCAR, RMC ) Detailing a PFE R-70-20 mechanical reefer Railroad Model Craftsman, June

[S-Scale Modeling] rail height, etc.

2005-10-06 Thread Bud Rindfleisch
Hi all, In all the discussions I've read on this list regarding rail heights and the comparable scale model rail, I haven't seen anyone mention rail head width. I say this because different manufacturer's rail is rolled to different specs, one's code 100 has such a wide railhead that the

Re: [S-Scale Modeling] real world track S gauge track (or do-the-math)

2005-10-06 Thread pieter_roos
I used the table on a website linked in an earlier mail of this thread. It listed 25 lb rail as being 2 3/4 inches high, which works out to .036 inch. Even 1 3/4 inch rail would be code 25. I know some small scale modelers have made rail this size by heating and drawing code 40 rail. You could

Re: [S-Scale Modeling] rail height, etc.

2005-10-06 Thread Bob Werre
Bud, You have hit the rail on the head!! or whatever. I use the old Miller tie strip with code 126 on most of my mainline and it works quite well with the new wheel spacing although some tight curves do cause some problems.I was told that Miller made up some code 100 with a wider base to

Re: [S-Scale Modeling] Re: real world track S gauge track (or do-the-math)

2005-10-06 Thread Richard Karnes
rbnicholson2001 wrote: Yes, and we certainly wouldn't want to use rail an actual .024 oversize that would stick out like a sore thumb on an otherwise scale layout and earn us eternal ridicule from the experts, would we? All -- I know Brother Nicholson has his tongue in his cheek.

[S-Scale Modeling] Track gauge, standard and narrow

2005-10-06 Thread t.hawley
I said Japan uses 3½ foot gauge track and somebody asked off-list if it wasn't meter rather than 3½ foot gauge. That prompted me to do a little Googling and found this very interesting article on the histrory of the various narrow gauges. http://www.jrtr.net/jrtr31/f33_sai.html It describes

Re: [S-Scale Modeling] real world track S gauge track (or do-the-math)

2005-10-06 Thread Rollain Mercier
and he notes - Rail design is both form and function as well as economics. Maine's two-footers were an economic adventure and rail and roadbed costs were a factor in selecting gauge, much as the three-foot lines faced back in the 19th century. The Maine lines found the lightest rail available

[S-Scale Modeling] Toys R us cars?

2005-10-06 Thread ctxmf74
Hi All, I picked up a couple of 59 cent cars at toys r us , they seem to be close to S scale size but no scale given on the packaging. Anyone else seen these? They are fast lane toysdave To REPLY to the list, use REPLY ALL; to reply to the sender, use REPLY. For those of you on DIGEST

[S-Scale Modeling] Rail height and scale high-rail

2005-10-06 Thread t.hawley
To put things in perspective, let me suggest that rail height may be only a small part of what gives a model RR a scale look. The prime example is Brooks Stovers' Buffalo Creek and Gauley S-gauge railroad. It uses American Models code 148 flex track and turnouts. (This all comes from AM

Re: [S-Scale Modeling] Rail height and scale high-rail

2005-10-06 Thread Bob Werre
Tom and All, I visited his prior layout a few years ago during the Dear born convention, and his layout was/is everything you say it is. Brooks is a very creative person. But inquiring minds (and me too) wonder why didn't he go to the smaller rail size when he had the chance? He is

Re: [S-Scale Modeling] Rail height and scale high-rail

2005-10-06 Thread Roy Inman
Never saw the layout, but wished I had. Never met the man, but sounds like we are on the same page. Perhaps, Bob, he is sorta like me in that the rail height is not the priority; overall scale appearance is. And it sounds as if he did what I am planning on doing: using 148 exclusively, therefore

[S-Scale Modeling] Re: Rail height and scale high-rail

2005-10-06 Thread pieter_roos
Hi Tom; What you say is all true in every single commercial scale and gauge. While someone who makes the effort to use scale sized rail and wheels is probably less likely to run an 1860's 4-4-0 alongside an Dash-8 diesel, there is nothing really stopping them. In S, Hi-rail and Scale trains

[S-Scale Modeling] Re: Scale vs. hirail...

2005-10-06 Thread pieter_roos
Hi Roy; Your question seems to have been passed over in the rail-height frenzy. It seems to me NASG has a very nice phamplet on S Gauge complete with color photos that could be used to combat some of the mis- information. As to the hobby shop that when to such lenghts to make up a starter

Re: [S-Scale Modeling] Re: Scale vs. hirail...

2005-10-06 Thread Roy Inman
Hi Pieter, And thanks for the suggestions :) It does get pretty frustrating trying to get the word out. With the approaching holidays, it might be a good time to display some S stuff. I do notice, as you probably do also, that lots of folks respond favorably when the see our models, the detailing

[S-Scale Modeling] Brooks Stover's layout

2005-10-06 Thread Tom Hawley
- Original Message - From: Bob Werre [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . . . But inquiring minds (and me too) wonder why didn't he go to the smaller rail size when he had the chance? . . . . . An interesting question, and I don't know what factors kept him, technically, high-rail. The

[S-Scale Modeling] Re: real world track S gauge track (or do-the-math)

2005-10-06 Thread wyhog
FYI, The new rail laid by BNSF on curves at Kiewit, WY this summer is 141 pound rail. I'll try to remember to measure the hieght and railhead width next time I'm stuck out there. Wyhog To REPLY to the list, use REPLY ALL; to reply to the sender, use REPLY. For those of you on DIGEST mode,

[S-Scale Modeling] Changing Scale - was Mech Reefers/Modern cars

2005-10-06 Thread VB
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[S-Scale Modeling] Re: Scale vs. hirail and so much more!

2005-10-06 Thread Jamie Bothwell
Hi Folks, I've been following the on going threads with much interest. Wow! Is it time for the annual How do we get people into S thread? already! I really need to mark the calendar! My favorite line was from whomever said he liked being in S because we stood out in a room. Man,

[S-Scale Modeling] 2006 NASG Convention

2005-10-06 Thread David Held
HI folks, Check out smsgtrains.org for the latest information on the 2006 NASG Convention, sponsored buy the Southeast Michigan S Gougers. Dave To REPLY to the list, use REPLY ALL; to reply to the sender, use REPLY. For those of you on DIGEST mode, all REPLY messages go to the list

[S-Scale Modeling] 2006 NASG Convention

2005-10-06 Thread David Held
Excuse me, That's Southeast Michigan S Gaugers It's late! Dave - Original Message - From: Roy Inman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jamie Bothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; S-Scale List S-Scale@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [S-Scale Modeling] Re: Scale vs.